Revan vs Talzin (Force only)

Originally posted by SunRazer
Talzin wrecks on Dathomir.

Revan wins on neutral ground.

Originally posted by Deronn_solo
What are Talzin's neutral ground feats?

Failing to sustain her Illusions and getting injured by non-Force sensitives because "sterile places" didn't sustain her magicks or something of the sort.

Although if Zardossa Stix is considered neutral ground, then she dueled Mace and contended with him strength-wise. And teleported.

I've never felt comfortable with the idea that some random Nightsister on a nexus is comparable to the most powerful sith lord in galactic history, the culmination of the Banite line whose title was "annointed" by the dark side itself. It was really dumb, in all honesty.

In fairness, Talzin's rituals allowed her to wreck Dooku from across the galaxy.

Regardless, this has only taken place in Canon. Legends suggests that Sidious is way out of Talzin's league.

lol wait...seriously? In that case, Revan may actually win. Canon Sidious doesn't benefit from the same set of feats and accolades.

Neutral ground is a ridiculous notion with Talzin, seeing as the environment largely determines how much power she can wield. As Nova said, she was capable of some pretty impressive shit on Zardossa Stix, a planet that seemed relatively devoid of life (likely due to the fact there was machinery there which was designed to siphon life energy), but on a lifeless station like the one she faced Palpatine on, she could perform similar feats but for almost no length of time.

Really, "neutral ground" doesn't exist. There's places where she'd win and places she'd likely lose. I guess if it truly is "neutral ground", they take an even split.

She wins on Dathomir though.

Neutral ground would be a moderately verdant planet like earth or something, if the amount of life is important. No nexus, no advantage either way in terms of terrain or stuff to draw upon.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Neutral ground would be a moderately verdant planet like earth or something, if the amount of life is important. No nexus, no advantage either way in terms of terrain or stuff to draw upon.

But a planet like that isn't neutral, because it sustains her full power enough to win.

Neutrality isn't average. In a Dooku vs Mace fight, for example, Neutral is an area with some rocks and a few strategic advantages, to not make Force an easy win for Dooku and to make Sokan useful but not a game changer.

Here there is no neutral, because it's always a game changer.

If she's good enough to win on anything more than Tatooine or Hoth then she deserves to win. Her winning isn't contradictory with neutrality.

Originally posted by Nephthys
If she's good enough to win on anything more than Tatooine or Hoth then she deserves to win. Her winning isn't contradictory with neutrality.

Yes, but as I was saying the amount of life isn't a factor among many, it's the only factor, so a neutral planet is impossible.

I doubt she'd win on those planets, for the record.