Darth Caedus and Darth Vader vs Novel Vitiate and Marka Ragnos

Originally posted by carthage
Especially since a being who dominates hive worlds wasn't able to dominate Jacen

He could dominate Luke (?) though, as I recall, implying that there's a difference between power in the force an telepathy resistance - Jacen is an Ant compared to Luke. Caedus on the other hand, is probably more susceptible to mindrapelal.

Unuthul wasn't putting his full focus into Jacen like he was for Luke. He was also controlling the other Jedi and such when Jacen "resisted" him.

That hardly improves Vitiate's case for Mind Controlling a Jacen that isn't unconscious or hasn't practically fallen to the dark side already. Unless he implanted an aspect of himself in Jacen ever since the latter was a child, but seeing as Kira Carsen managed to overpower Vitiate in a battle of wills, I think Jacen's fine in that scenario as well 😆

Depends on where you place Karness Muur as a combatant.

Depends where you place any of them as a combatant.

Originally posted by The Ellimist
Or Caedus beats Vitiate and Vader beats Ragnos. 👆

Originally posted by Tondemonai
Tbh Vitiate TP's these tools

Originally posted by cs_zoltan
Depends where you place any of them as a combatant.

I have it like this: Vong Krayt < Karness Muur < Ajunta Pall < Marka Ragnos.

That should put him on par with Vader, if not, above him.

If Krayt is being compared to Dooku, in his Vong stage, then yeah, I can definitely see Ragnos being above Vader.

Not by much, but he might be the gap between Vader and Caedus.

Originally posted by Jmanghan
I have it like this: Vong Krayt > Karness Muur

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Originally posted by Jmanghan
I have it like this: Vong Krayt > Karness Muur > Ajunta Pall > Marka Ragnos.

That should put him on par with Vader, if not, above him.

Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
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