Abeloth vs. Vitiate's Empire

Could Vitiate's Empire kill FotJ Abeloth? She's not allowed to power up beyond the strongest that she was in FotJ.

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Abeloth is outgunned by miles. Bad thread.

Kill her? No.

Defeat her? Yes.

Abeloth.

In al honesty Vitiate does solo, depending on at what point in time it is. If it's near the end of vanilla TOR, and there's no Republic interference, then he completes his galaxy-consuming ritual. Otherwise, probably Abeloth, but I can see Vitiate meditating for weeks on end and performing a ritual that would allow him to subdue her.

Originally posted by Tondemonai
In al honesty Vitiate does solo, depending on at what point in time it is. If it's near the end of vanilla TOR, and there's no Republic interference, then he completes his galaxy-consuming ritual. Otherwise, probably Abeloth, but I can see Vitiate meditating for weeks on end and performing a ritual that would allow him to subdue her.

With respect to the galaxy ritual, that was only possible because there was a war going on. If we still put this battle in the backdrop of the war, then the Hero has an even easier time taking him out.

Originally posted by The Ellimist
With respect to the galaxy ritual, that was only possible because there was a war going on. If we still put this battle in the backdrop of the war, then the Hero has an even easier time taking him out.

True, but would the deaths caused by Abeloth not be enormous as well? She'd be destroying planets, and just feeding Vitiate faster than the war ever did IMO. I can agree with HoT taking Vitiate out easier but I see the Republic and Empire forming a temporary alliance, and just giving him the deaths he needs even faster. Whatever the case, I see him being able to pull off the ritual more likely than not.

It's possible that Vitiate could set up his ritual while Abeloth is fighting through his forces, then Vitiate uses his ritual and absorbs her strength. So given enough time Vitiate could win. I'd say the Empire wins without the ritual as well though, numbers like that will overwhelm anybody.

Originally posted by Tondemonai
True, but would the deaths caused by Abeloth not be enormous as well? She'd be destroying planets, and just feeding Vitiate faster than the war ever did IMO. I can agree with HoT taking Vitiate out easier but I see the Republic and Empire forming a temporary alliance, and just giving him the deaths he needs even faster. Whatever the case, I see him being able to pull off the ritual more likely than not.

Why can't Abeloth stop him?

Originally posted by The Ellimist
Why can't Abeloth stop him?

Would she know that she needed to? I mean even if she did, the Maw is pretty damn far from the Tingel Arm. On top of that, Vitiate would throw all of his forces at her so that she either gets weakened/beaten or kills them all to give him the deaths he needs.

Abeloth's whole gig was to disguise herself in multiple bodies and torture information out of people. Her first step: Scourge.

Fair enough. I don't see him sending Scourge though. More likely a Hand or Child so he can scope it out for himself, per se, and if/when she violates it I don't see them giving much info. Her other gig was just wrecking shit she didn't like though, so throw enough crap in her direction and she'll just get annoyed and start blowing shit up.

I mean, if Abeloth can just locate Vitiate and finish him at the beginning of the conflict, then sure, what remains of his Emprie would be enslaved by her. But, if Vitiate can hide and low-key ritual f*** her from distance, then he can stop her with his knowledge of the dark side and the resources of his empire imo. This could go in different ways is my point.

Abeloth could probably track him down tbh.

edit: And there's no ****ing way he's soloing LOL

He could find ways to distract her tbh. He has the DC, DMs, Imperial Intelligence and the armies/fleets that would come in handy.

Originally posted by Sinious
He could find ways to distract her tbh. He has the DC, DMs, Imperial Intelligence and the armies/fleets that would come in handy.

IIRC, she has insane level of calculation/strategizing in milliseconds so she can definitely find ways to outsmart him and locate him before he pulls off something lethal. However, I still don't think her victory is guaranteed as Abeloth was ultimately taken care of in FOTJ and like I said, Vitiate has many resources to make use of here.

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