Goku red vs Vegeta blue

Started by cdtm2 pages

Goku red vs Vegeta blue

BOTG Goku vs current Vegeta.

Who wins?

Vegeta, easily.

Not sure why people on this forum is overplaying red Goku here. I thought it was explained in the manga and anime that blue form is the next stage of god form? Beerus in super anime was holding back a LOT, the more story goes on, it seem Beerus statements in super is retconning the movie.

Except in Super Beerus was using 100% of his power against Goku Red, while in the BoTG movie he only had to use 70%. Goes to show more how power levels are all over the place in Super.

No.

It's confirmed right after that Beerus was lying to bring out Goku's full power faster.

Beerus used 100% of his power to stop the universe-threatening shockwaves, iirc. Don't recall him lying though but I'll take your word for it.

On the trip home, Whis accused him of lying to Goku to force his best.

I don't remember him admitting to it outright, but he didn't deny it either.

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
No.

It's confirmed right after that Beerus was lying to bring out Goku's full power faster.

When?

People didn't know about that? When Beerus and Whis were traveling back from Earth, Whis says something along the lines of, "You were lying when you said you were using 100% of your full power, right?" And Beerus says, "So you could tell, eh?"

BOG Red Loses, DBS Red Goku Wins.

Shit thread. Vegita wins wit little effort.

Nope

God of the Saijen Race > Super Saijen infused with gody ki

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Nope

God of the Saijen Race > Super Saijen infused with gody ki

You should probably stop posting on DB related threads, it's embarrassing and a waste of time 🙂

Originally posted by Tondemonai
You should probably stop posting on DB related threads, it's embarrassing and a waste of time 🙂

I got by screen feats, you ignore them. If you dont like it, be a pussy like I know you are and put me on ignore.

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
People didn't know about that? When Beerus and Whis were traveling back from Earth, Whis says something along the lines of, "You were lying when you said you were using 100% of your full power, right?" And Beerus says, "So you could tell, eh?"

👆 a lot of people overlooked this.

Originally posted by carver9
👆 a lot of people overlooked this.

Because people ignore screen feats. There is zero proof to suggest SSB, or Black are stronger then SSR.

Regeneration
Unlimted ki
Almost destroyed the universe
Beerus statment's to Whis.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Because people ignore screen feats. There is zero proof to suggest SSB, or Black are stronger then SSR.

Regeneration
Unlimted ki
Almost destroyed the universe
Beerus statment's to Whis.

Collateral damage means nothing, especially in Z. Example. Freiza almost died by a regular ki blast from Goku but tanked a planet exploding on him while near death.

Nothing was said him having unlimited ki.

He did almost destroy the Universe. This means that a more powerful Goku blue should be able to exceed that showing.

Current Goku has outright been compared to Beerus. Hell, current Goku while in Black hair form withstood an all out attack from Beerus whereas his Red form nearly died from a Beerus that was still toying with him.

I disagree with you on all points.

If the universe was going to be destroyed that means everyone was going to die with it, it was not just your normal collateral damage event.

You realize the reason the near-destruction-of-the-universe feat hasn't been repeated is because Goku actually has control over his godly power, hence why he is able to go SSB, which is a superior form. If the original SSG form is so much better than SSB, then why does he not use it in his fight with Black, even though we know he can do it? The reason is because SSG is inferior to SSB.