Odin vs Thanos/Darkseid

Started by DarkSaint8517 pages

Odin is far and away the most powerful of the Asgardians though.

I mean....I don't think getting the powers of Balder and Freyja and Cul would do much.

At least in DC, Zeus is more or less comparable to Poseidon etc....

Originally posted by Stoic
You asked me what the phuck I meant. Don't drag this out now that you know exactly what I meant. If he didn't power hijack, he would've gotten ripped. Period. Which also means that he didn't win convincingly. At least not in my eyes.

Heh! Dark literally took the words out of my mouth....

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
How does that mean he didn't beat him convincingly? Because he didn't go the Hulk route and just use his fists??

Why don't you tell me how I am wrong instead acting as if any of this shit actually matters irl.

It’s simple really.. teenage Darkseid who is significantly weaker then adult Darkseid was going toe to toe with Zeus. Then near the end it appeared DS was losing but in reality it was all a trick (always was his plan) to absorb Zeus’ power into himself making himself stronger. The tactic killed the skyfather. Darkseid won using his powers (not just his fists) and killed Zeus. That’s a convincing win

So for the sake of the argument let’s say Odin was stronger then Darkseid. You don’t think this tactic of defeating a more “powerful” opponent using his powers he has isn’t a viable tactic?

As mentioned you don’t need to just throw punches to have a convincing win. He used his abilities and killed a stronger opponent.

Got it. Now when I said that he didn't win convincingly, I wasn't talking about throwing punches, I meant that Zeus was more powerful, and that in order for Darkseid to win, he had to resort to cheating. If I steal your power, add it to mine and deck you, I cheated to win.

How's it cheating?

Originally posted by Stoic
Got it. Now when I said that he didn't win convincingly, I wasn't talking about throwing punches, I meant that Zeus was more powerful, and that in order for Darkseid to win, he had to resort to cheating. If I steal your power, add it to mine and deck you, I cheated to win.

Not at all. That was his entire plan to absorb Zeus right from the start and used the rope a dope. That is not cheating and within his power and abilities and since he is a villain also in character for him to do it

It’s 100% valid

Power stealing is a 100% valid tactic.

Odin saves Loki's life from them.
Then Loki teaches them a couple little things about power the old school way.
Loki lays these two down in an event that would make IG look like the end of the Universe.

I know, but I still viewed it as a cheat. Thanos did something similar when he fought Tyrant. I know it was all planned I read it, and my expectations were deflated when it went down the way that it did. I expected an epic battle that would've left the winner in a poor physical state. But that's neither here nor there, I just saw the victory as a cheat. No biggie.

Darkseid is.

Originally posted by Stoic
I know, but I still viewed it as a cheat. Thanos did something similar when he fought Tyrant. I know it was all planned I read it, and my expectations were deflated when it went down the way that it did. I expected an epic battle that would've left the winner in a poor physical state. But that's neither here nor there, I just saw the victory as a cheat. No biggie.
What Thanos did to Tyrant was different as he stole a object physically, what DS did was part of his powerset.

Darkseid is powered by gods he’s killed. If you ever read his history; the way he rose in power was by traveling the universe finding pantheons of gods and killing them making himself stronger. The Zues storyline in Wonder Woman was only an extension of what we already knew.

Originally posted by Insane Titan
What Thanos did to Tyrant was different as he stole a object physically, what DS did was part of his powerset.

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Originally posted by Stoic
Got it. Now when I said that he didn't win convincingly, I wasn't talking about throwing punches, I meant that Zeus was more powerful, and that in order for Darkseid to win, he had to resort to cheating. If I steal your power, add it to mine and deck you, I cheated to win.

Cheating means he broke rules, somehow.

There weren't any rules saying no power absorption. Creel doesn't 'cheat' in every fight. Sebastian Shaw doesn't cheat. Killer Frost, Black Alice...these guys aren't 'cheaters'.

Worth noting is the reason he stole Zeus' power, which is to......get back to full power.

So Darkseid [FP] > Darkseid [depowered - who has the ability to steal Zeus' power] & Zeus.