Originally posted by cs_zoltan
Your example works against you. If Cade beating Nihl deserved him a temporary demotion then it's pretty obvious combative prowess is the most important aspect of being a Hand.
Not really since Nihl didn't become less skilled or powerful? Nihl failed his master which meant his demotion yet there is no indication he's prowess as a warrior was suddenly lessened.
Originally posted by Ursumeles
I imagine that Wredd is above a Sub-Padawan faqq tbh.Spoiler:
Nah, but I don't see Maul >>>>>> above Wredd
And neither is Vong Krayt, in all honesty. We know Wyyrlok is comparable enough to him(what with contending with a far greater Krayt well enough), and Nihl and Talon are at least close enough to Wyyrlok not to get stomped.
Basically, Wredd won't be one-shot fodder for Vong Krayt.
Originally posted by Ursumeles
IIRC, it was noted in BoS that they were rivals.
Nothing implies a parity in power, tho.
I don't recall that. I just recall them having the same title, to which you can just refer to my initial post.
All of this is an irrelevant discussion brought on a pelican-fearing idiot.
Originally posted by DarthDuelist9
Not really since Nihl didn't become less skilled or powerful? Nihl failed his master which meant his demotion yet there is no indication he's prowess as a warrior was suddenly lessened.
Obviously not, what the hell? But he was demoted by the merit of his combat efficency, was he not? And then Krayt promoted the next best warrior in his place. Why would he pick someone far less powerful than Nihl, when he demoted Nihl for not being powerful enough?
Originally posted by cs_zoltan
Obviously not, what the hell? But he was demoted by the merit of his combat efficency, was he not? And then Krayt promoted the next best warrior in his place. Why would he pick someone far less powerful than Nihl, when he demoted Nihl for not being powerful enough?
He was demoted because he failed to defeat Cade, the next Hand wouldn't do any better to be honest while at the same time Nihl didn't get any less skilled or powerful.
Why would he pick someone far less powerful than Nihl, when he demoted Nihl for not being powerful enough?
You contradict yourself now, Nihl was apparently the best before fighting Cade (better as his replacement) yet suddenly is less powerful after he loses? Since when do duels have a negative effect on your prowess as a fighter?
Originally posted by MythLord
And neither is Vong Krayt, in all honesty. We know Wyyrlok is comparable enough to him(what with contending with a far greater Krayt well enough), and Nihl and Talon are at least close enough to Wyyrlok not to get stomped.Basically, Wredd won't be one-shot fodder for Vong Krayt.
I don't recall that. I just recall them having the same title, to which you can just refer to my initial post.All of this is an irrelevant discussion brought on a pelican-fearing idiot.
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Originally posted by DarthDuelist9
He was demoted because he failed to defeat Cade, the next Hand wouldn't do any better to be honest while at the same time Nihl didn't get any less skilled or powerful.
Nihl failed so Krayt tried someone else, it's not a difficult concept to grasp.
And I never said Nihl became less skilled and powerful because he was demoted, why the f-uck you keep bringing this up?
Originally posted by DarthDuelist9
You contradict yourself now, Nihl was apparently the best before fighting Cade (better as his replacement) yet suddenly is less powerful after he loses? Since when do duels have a negative effect on your prowess as a fighter?
I never said this either...
Originally posted by cs_zoltan
Nihl failed so Krayt tried someone else, it's not a difficult concept to grasp.And I never said Nihl became less skilled and powerful because he was demoted, why the f-uck you keep bringing this up?
I never said this either...
It's not that difficult to understand Zoltan, Nihl was demoted by Krayt and you say that the position of Hand means he's the strongest (or amongst the strongest) yet Nihl didn't become any less skilled or powerful so if he was amongst the strongest before fighting Cade, he's obviously still going to be the strongest after fighting him. However he was still replaced because he failed his master, not because he isn't strong enough.
Nihl and Talon failed, because they weren't powerful enough tho. And their case was a special one. They were still alive, and they were only demoted temporarily. So obviously Stryfe didn't magically become better than them, because he was promoted. The Hand is the most powerful, because the previous Hand is usually dead by then. It wasn't the case this time, but the Hands are still the most powerful.
But if you have a solid case why would Krayt not pick the most powerful sith as his Hand I'm all ears. But right now you are just nitpicking because you don't want to believe it.
Originally posted by Ursumeles
Wut? Why do you think that Wyyrlok won't ragdoll Nihl? (IIRC, Vong Krayt already ragdolled him btw) That argument is flawed. That's like saying: "Tyranus can't ragdoll Maul, and Maul can't ragdoll Kenobi, so Tyranus can't ragdoll Kenobi".
Reborn Krayt ragdolled Nihl when Nihl had his guard down and wasn't properly defending himself. 👆
Wyyrlok doesn't strike me so vastly ahead of Nihl, especially when Nihl is meant to be Krayt's second in-command bar Wyyrlok himself, and he was made leader of the Order after Krayt's and Wyyrlok's death.
It strikes me like Nihl shouldn't be getting gigastomped or one-shotted by Wyyrlok.
Originally posted by Ursumeles
IIRC, Sorzus said, that she would made talismans for them, so that they can clash with each other all the time.
She said she'll make two amulets so Muur and Dreypa can be at odds with each other, but that hardly indicates parity.
Originally posted by MythLord
Reborn Krayt ragdolled Nihl when Nihl had his guard down and wasn't properly defending himself. 👆
Wyyrlok doesn't strike me so vastly ahead of Nihl, especially when Nihl is meant to be Krayt's second in-command bar Wyyrlok himself, and he was made leader of the Order after Krayt's and Wyyrlok's death.It strikes me like Nihl shouldn't be getting gigastomped or one-shotted by Wyyrlok.
She said she'll make two amulets so Muur and Dreypa can be at odds with each other, but that hardly indicates parity
Originally posted by cs_zoltan
Nihl and Talon failed, because they weren't powerful enough tho. And their case was a special one. They were still alive, and they were only demoted temporarily. So obviously Stryfe didn't magically become better than them, because he was promoted. The Hand is the most powerful, because the previous Hand is usually dead by then. It wasn't the case this time, but the Hands are still the most powerful.But if you have a solid case why would Krayt not pick the most powerful sith as his Hand I'm all ears. But right now you are just nitpicking because you don't want to believe it.
So we have an example when the most powerful Sith isn't a Hand (Nihl and Talon) yet the Hands are the most powerful? Yeah that's a really good thinking process. 👆