Canon combatants <<<<< Legends combatants, right?

Started by The Ellimist2 pages

Canon combatants <<<<< Legends combatants, right?

I think we just assume that there's some sort of continuity between the two universes that modulates their power; for example, we assume that canon Maul is greater than Legends Qui-Gon because we conflate the two canons in our heads.

But, there are essentially two ways for Canon to compare with Legends in feats (since powerscaling between them doesn't work, as they're separate story-lines), now that Stover's novel apparently isn't canon: those Vader comics and Kylo Ren deflecting lightsaber strikes. Well, maybe Qui Gon and Obi Wan's Force speed, and Anakin's fall in AotC.

But beyond that, Canon Sidious probably loses to Galen Marek. I mean, it's not like Canon Sidious is the same Legends Sidious that mind-controlled Byss, mind-fugged Coruscant, or tore apart fleets.

Thoughts?

Legends takes canon into consideration.

For the most part. In regards to the category of speed it depends on calcs for blaster speeds tbh and your placement of Kanan.

I feel like it's only a matter of time before canon gets into the same feats realm that Legends was in.

Originally posted by |King Joker|
I feel like it's only a matter of time before canon gets into the same feats realm that Legends was in.

In some cases it already has, Obi-Wan lifting up giant ships alongside a 13 year old Anakin, Vader partially lifting up a Walker, 5th Brother and 7th Sister holding back the Phantom, ...

Originally posted by DarthDuelist9
In some cases it already has, Obi-Wan lifting up giant ships alongside a 13 year old Anakin, Vader partially lifting up a Walker, 5th Brother and 7th Sister holding back the Phantom, ...
Yeah, but I meant more when it comes to things like speed and general Force augmentation.

Legends is shit that could have happened, canon is what definitely happened. In that sense, one legend is as good as the next as far as validity is concerned. The easiest way to look at it, for me, is to say "yes, if you believe that then X ____ Y."

Kanan has already blocked hundreds of blaster bolts.

Re: Canon combatants <<<<< Legends combatants, right?

Originally posted by The Ellimist
I think we just assume that there's some sort of continuity between the two universes that modulates their power; for example, we assume that canon Maul is greater than Legends Qui-Gon because we conflate the two canons in our heads.

But, there are essentially two ways for Canon to compare with Legends in feats (since powerscaling between them doesn't work, as they're separate story-lines), now that Stover's novel apparently isn't canon: those Vader comics and Kylo Ren deflecting lightsaber strikes. Well, maybe Qui Gon and Obi Wan's Force speed, and Anakin's fall in AotC.

But beyond that, Canon Sidious probably loses to Galen Marek. I mean, it's not like Canon Sidious is the same Legends Sidious that mind-controlled Byss, mind-fugged Coruscant, or tore apart fleets.

Thoughts?

I just give Canon feats to Legends characters, unless they conflict.

And Galen isn't beating Canon Sidious, lmfao. http://comicvine.gamespot.com/profile/americanspeeddemon/blog/canon-darth-sidious-respect-thread/127948/

Originally posted by Azronger
I just give Canon feats to Legends characters, unless they conflict.

And Galen isn't beating Canon Sidious, lmfao. http://comicvine.gamespot.com/profile/americanspeeddemon/blog/canon-darth-sidious-respect-thread/127948/

None of that is comparable to the upper-tier feats in TFU series (one-shotting hundreds of soldiers, exploding AT-ATs, and obviously the frigate feat). Much of it is powerscaling from other canon characters who have similarly feeble showings.

Re: Re: Canon combatants <<<<< Legends combatants, right?

Originally posted by Azronger
I just give Canon feats to Legends characters, unless they conflict.

And Galen isn't beating Canon Sidious, lmfao. http://comicvine.gamespot.com/profile/americanspeeddemon/blog/canon-darth-sidious-respect-thread/127948/

Canon Sidious? Why not?

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Yeah, Legends characters just seem to be on average more powerful than their Canon counterparts, but there are a few rare exceptions where a Canon character is superior to a Legends character. Honestly though, I think the only character that's been kept relatively consistent is Vader.

Originally posted by darthbane77
Yeah, Legends characters just seem to be on average more powerful than their Canon counterparts, but there are a few rare exceptions where a Canon character is superior to a Legends character. Honestly though, I think the only character that's been kept relatively consistent is Vader.

Pretty much, the baseline is also far greater too.

No, not necessarily at all. And Canon Sids would put Marek into a dustbin.

According to Sheevites, canon>>>>Legends

It's not like Legends characters clear armies, while canon characters fall to 30 men.
There is so many inconsistances, Power/speed/feats Legends murk canon. there is no equivalence.

And Legends Marek destroys canon Sidious FYI.

Originally posted by Haschwalth
And Legends Marek gets destroyed by canon Adi Gallia FYI.

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The only reason it seems like canon character may be weaker than legends characters is because not enough material is out that shows how powerful some characters are. And Legends did show some pretty crazy feats, which, since they are no longer canon, make the power they showed questionable. I guess there is the aspect of the legends continuity being the Legends WITHIN the star wars universe, so maybe the characters are still capable of those feats, but there's no way to know. At this point the safest assumption would be that Canon characters are weaker, but I suppose time will tell.