How close is Caedus to Luke in sabers?

Started by The Ellimist2 pages

How close is Caedus to Luke in sabers?

Discuss.

Doesn't get blitzed, but still gets stomped.

Relative close. About an half tier, or a bit less, behind him.

Lmao.


"Luke didn't give Jacen a chance to surrender. He just sprang.

Ben's jaw dropped, and Jacen started to spin, snatching his lightsaber from his belt and igniting it in the same motion, bringing the emerald blade around high to protect his heart and head.

But Luke was attacking low, striking for the kidney to disable in the most painful way possible. Jacen's eyes widened. He flipped his lightsaber down in the same moment Luke's met flesh.

The tip sank a few centimeters, drawing a pained hiss as it touched a kidney, then Jacen's blade made contact and knocked it aside. Even that small wound would have left most humans paralyzed with agony. But Jacen thrived on pain, fed on it to make himself stronger and faster. He simply completed his pivot and landed a rib-crunching roundhouse."

"Luke stumbled back, his chest filled with fire. Jacen had caught him on the barely healed scar from his first fight with Lumiya, and now his breath was coming in short painful gasps.

Good, Luke thought. This was supposed to hurt."

"Jacen followed the kick with a high slash. Luke blocked and spun inside, landing an elbow smash to the temple that dropped Jacen to his knees. He brought his own knee up under Jacen's chin, hearing teeth crack-and relishing it. He parried a weak slash at his thighs, then drew his blade up diagonally where his nephew's chest should have been."

"Except Jacen was sliding backward, one hand extended behind him, using the Force to pull himself toward a tendril-draped rack in the far corner of the torture chamber. Luke leapt after him, bringing his lightsaber around in a low, clearing sweep."

- Inferno

The fight would have ended in three strikes had Caedus not pulled himself to a Tendrill rack with TK. Note: this an "amped" Caedus, but it just goes to show how the fight would have ended had Caedus not had an anchor to pull himself to, or if the battle was just pure sabers and martial combat.

Tbf, that's assuming that the rack was Caedus's only option, and not just the preferable one to blocking.

Originally posted by Ziggystardust
The fight would have ended in three strikes had Caedus not pulled himself to a Tendrill rack with TK. Note: this an "amped" Caedus, but it just goes to show how the fight would have ended had Caedus not had an anchor to pull himself to, or if the battle was just pure sabers and martial combat.

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About the gap between Yoda and Dooku.

Originally posted by The Ellimist
Tbf, that's assuming that the rack was Caedus's only option, and not just the preferable one to blocking.

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Originally posted by Nephthys
About the gap between Yoda and Dooku.

Originally posted by Nephthys
About the gap between Yoda and Dooku.
So about equals then.

He isn't on Luke's plane of existence.

Originally posted by The Ellimist
Tbf, that's assuming that the rack was Caedus's only option, and not just the preferable one to blocking.

Then you might want to ask yourself why Caedus chooses to disengage in a contest of pure lightsabers and what would happen if he continued to battle Luke in martial combat without clinging to an anchor to regain himself - the most parsimonious answer is that after a weak attempt to slash Luke's thighs, the latter having parried his blade for an opening, he'd get impaled. Caedus survives because he clung to an anchor, and as far as pure combat is concerned, Luke did pretty much everything but kill Caedus in what would have been a very brief fight. The Verdict - A wider gap then Maul and ROTS Sidious.

Originally posted by Ursumeles
Relative close. About an half tier, or a bit less, behind him.

Closer than Vader. 🙂

Caedus is Windu tier in sabers imo, a step down from the top tiers like Yoda, Sidious, Luke. He can hold his own, but he loses every time.

Originally posted by MythLord
Closer than Vader. 🙂

Yiz.

Originally posted by Trocity
Caedus is Windu tier in sabers imo, a step down from the top tiers like Yoda, Sidious, Luke. He can hold his own, but he loses every time.

Yeah the gap is pretty noticeable tbh.

Originally posted by Ziggystardust
Then you might want to ask yourself why Caedus chooses to disengage in a contest of pure lightsabers

Because Luke caught him flat footed and was outmatching him?


and what would happen if he continued to battle Luke in martial combat without clinging to an anchor to regain himself - the most parsimonious answer is that after a weak attempt to slash Luke's thighs, the latter having parried his blade for an opening, he'd get impaled.

So he can extend his hand out and pull his entire body out of the way, but he can rotate his wrists a little bit to parry Luke's diagonal slash, because apparently he couldn't figure to be able to recover to guard from being parried?


Caedus survives because he clung to an anchor, and as far as pure combat is concerned, Luke did pretty much everything but kill Caedus in what would have been a very brief fight. The Verdict - A wider gap then Maul and ROTS Sidious.

Then why doesn't Luke just kill him in another three slashes when he engages him again. It's almost as if Luke's initial advantage wasn't constant throughout the fight. mmm