Novel Vitiate isn't beating Plagueis. Whether you take that blurb at face-value or not, it's a good indication of how powerful he is. Vit should've been much more powerful in the novel, but Drew 'Shitty Writer' Karpy made him look like a dumbass. Still, someone who's TPM Sidious level would beat that specific version of Vitiate, I believe. I do understand where people who oppose this point of view are coming from, tho.
Originally posted by Azronger
Based on what is he "blatantly superior"?
The fact that he absorbed the energies of an entire planet after having regained the energies he had around the time of the Revan novel. This is based off Revan's speculation that Vitiate by that point may already have been capable of draining the life from Dromund Kaas while we saw Vitiate actively demonstrate the ability to do so after having regained his power by driving the population of Ziost to madness.
Originally posted by Deronn_solo
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Learn to read babe, the quote clearly states:It said he "the most powerful Sith Lord who ever lived", not "who had" was never apart of the blurb. "Was" being used because he was clearly no longer alive, and the question was only there for rhetorical/ hype effects, which is the main point of a blurb. Thus, it's open to either a all-time, or up to his time interpretations.
To dismiss the possibility entirely to fit your own agenda is dishonest man.
Lal, how does that change my point at all? The important detail is that the verb is in the past tense, meaning that it doesn't contradict the quotes that say Sidious was the most powerful because, well, Sidious's peak came after Plagueis's. What was your point again?
Not even talking about that one, lal. I'm talking about the quote that says Bane is more powerful than the entire Brotherhood,
How do you know that the quote referred to Bane's power against the literal combination of the brotherhood? You're using the most ridiculous interpretations possible to discredit them.
or Zannah and Bane's final confrontation was decided by a lightsaber blow. Both are factually incorrect.
Because they're contradicted by other evidence. Likewise, if you can find contradicting evidence of the Plagueis blurb, then you're welcome to post it; but frankly we've invited you to do this multiple times so it doesn't seem like you have any.
Oh, but I do dismiss quotes/accolades that are clearly contradicted; this Plagueis accolade, in my opinion, is one of those instances.
And as we've asked you many times, can you actually post these contradictions for the record?
Originally posted by Azronger
Is that a concession, Deronn?You also failed to respond as to why you consider Valkorion Plagueis' better, except with an ad populum.
Nah, I'll respond [eventually] but my head is killing me atm. Honestly, this blurb argument bores me to tears.
As for Valkorion v Plagueis, I'm working on that reply methodically, but I'm still tryna gather source[s] that confirm the state of the Republic played a significant part in the unbalance.
Originally posted by PetrusIs this novel Vitiate? I was under the impression this was peak Vitiate; which would have been vanilla SWTOR Vitiate at the end of ACT II of the JK story.
Novel Vitiate isn't beating Plagueis. Whether you take that blurb at face-value or not, it's a good indication of how powerful he is. Vit should've been much more powerful in the novel, but Drew 'Shitty Writer' Karpy made him look like a dumbass. Still, someone who's TPM Sidious level would beat that specific version of Vitiate, I believe. I do understand where people who oppose this point of view are coming from, tho.