Originally posted by The Ellimist
Sidious might win, actually.
Not if it's Golden Frieza. Also, while Sidious' TK is better on paper, and he'll definitely win a "who can lift/crush the bigger/more durable object" contest, I don't think he has the TK to hurt Frieza, meanwhile Frieza's TK might to Sheev in.
At best, I'd argue a stalemate.
Originally posted by MythLord
Which Frieza? From what I recall, the Namek Saga Frieza's TK is hill level, so thi should be Sidious' game to win.Though, I question if he can actually hurt Frieza. mmm
Sorry, forgot to specify. Final Form Frieza as of his fight with Goku on Namek. Also, he casually lifted a mountain out of the ground 🙂
Originally posted by Ursumeles
When it gets closed I will have no complaints, but it will be fun while it lasts
Originally posted by MythLord
Not if it's Golden Frieza.
Oh, yeah. I meant the original one.
Also, while Sidious' TK is better on paper, and he'll definitely win a "who can lift/crush the bigger/more durable object" contest, I don't think he has the TK to hurt Frieza,
I think he does. Just because Frieza can tank massive ki blasts doesn't mean his resistance to having his trachea ripped is the same; he can get cut by Trunk's sword, crushed by blows that really aren't on par with Sidious's TK, etc.
meanwhile Frieza's TK might to Sheev in.
Not necessarily. What are Frieza's best TK feats anyway? I don't remember him having any; I guess you could powerscale to ludicrous levels from kid Goku lifting pyramids or something.
Originally posted by The Ellimist
I think he does. Just because Frieza can tank massive ki blasts doesn't mean his resistance to having his trachea ripped is the same; he can get cut by Trunk's sword, crushed by blows that really aren't on par with Sidious's TK, etc.
Really? What crushed him that's inferior to Sids' TK? Also, Trunks was wielding the sword at the time, and given just how much stronger he was than Frieza, it'd make sense his strength backing it up would be enough to cut Frieza.
Originally posted by The Ellimist
Not necessarily. What are Frieza's best TK feats anyway? I don't remember him having any; I guess you could powerscale to ludicrous levels from kid Goku lifting pyramids or something.
Lifting a mountain and crushing Krillin.
Originally posted by MythLord
Really? What crushed him that's inferior to Sids' TK? Also, Trunks was wielding the sword at the time, and given just how much stronger he was than Frieza, it'd make sense his strength backing it up would be enough to cut Frieza.
Where's the evidence that SSJ Goku on Namek tier Z characters' punches, which can harm Frieza, are comparable to Sidious's TK?
Lifting a mountain and crushing Krillin.
How big was the mountain?
Originally posted by MythLord
Also, Trunks was wielding the sword at the time, and given just how much stronger he was than Frieza, it'd make sense his strength backing it up would be enough to cut Frieza.
He uses his ki to increase its durability, while also having the physical strength to drive it through Freezer, to be specific
Lifting a mountain and crushing Krillin.
Did he crush Krillin? It seemed more to me that he TK'd him, then detonated an energy attack inside him, but I could be wrong
Originally posted by The Ellimist
Where's the evidence that SSJ Goku on Namek tier Z characters' punches, which can harm Frieza, are comparable to Sidious's TK?
Adjusting to 100x gravity and one-shotting Racoome prior to going SSJ.
Originally posted by The Ellimist
How big was the mountain?
Sorry, it wasn't a mountain. It was just a hill... hardly scratching Sidious' TK.
Originally posted by The Ellimist
How big was the mountain?