What philosophers do you most agree with?

Originally posted by Blakemore
Libertarianism isn't like that in Europe. Rand was Austrian, I think. Her theories tie closely with Nash's game theory, where if we all act for our own benefit and **** everyone else, an equilibrium is created where everyone is self seeking to the point of insanity, yet, because everyone is doing it, it becomes normal.

Even altruism can be used to manipulate people as part of the game. I'm not saying I agree with it, I'm saying it's an interesting theory that explains how humans operate when it comes to financial gain. The beauty is some people are very bad at it. Even better, Rand's theories were rejected because it was perceived as heartless (dem dam commies) but seriously, I think she was one of the great pioneers of individualism, which I'm assuming you disagree with.

This is why I spend most of time on the fence of the individualism vs collectivism debate.

We are not talking about Europe, we are talking about the North America. That is what it is here.

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
We are not talking about Europe, we are talking about the North America. That is what it is here.

Originally posted by Blakemore
Libertarianism isn't like that in Europe. Rand was Austrian, I think. Her theories tie closely with Nash's game theory, where if we all act for our own benefit and **** everyone else, an equilibrium is created where everyone is self seeking to the point of insanity, yet, because everyone is doing it, it becomes normal.

Even altruism can be used to manipulate people as part of the game. I'm not saying I agree with it, I'm saying it's an interesting theory that explains how humans operate when it comes to financial gain. The beauty is some people are very bad at it. Even better, Rand's theories were rejected because it was perceived as heartless (dem dam commies) but seriously, I think she was one of the great pioneers of individualism, which I'm assuming you disagree with.

This is why I spend most of time on the fence of the individualism vs collectivism debate.

Rand was not Austrian, she invented her own philosophy called objectivism. She got along with mises and rothbard loved atlas shrugged, but eventually wrote a play making fun of rand and a paper called the sociology of the Ayn Rand cult, her followers, and their cult like tendencies.

What she meant by selfish and altruism are different than how most people use the word. She meant selfish as self interest and altruism as helping others to your detriment.

Originally posted by Blakemore
Okay, well, in that case, you'd be right.

It is like that in N.A.

Originally posted by ilikecomics
Rand was not Austrian, she invented her own philosophy called objectivism. She got along with mises and rothbard loved atlas shrugged, but eventually wrote a play making fun of rand and a paper called the sociology of the Ayn Rand cult, her followers, and their cult like tendencies.

What she meant by selfish and altruism are different than how most people use the word. She meant selfish as self interest and altruism as helping others to your detriment.

And I looked it up, she was Russian-American. My goof.

Originally posted by Blakemore
She literally said in an interview altruism doesn't come into her philosophy.

And I looked it up, she was Russian-American. My goof.

Correct, and again her usage of it is a specialized term. Objectivism is her philosophy and how she handles the words selfish and altruism are different than how the words are typically understood.

Yes, she fled because the horrors of the communists.

Soviet Russia sounds like gypsies.

Basically the state creates everything and nobody owns anything. You can steal and fight however way you want, it doesn't matter. It's true anarchy and everything slowly turns to shit. If you're an American think of drug dealers in trailer parks. That's communism. Just steal whatever you can, no education other than trying not to get caught and, if you do get caught, well, again that's communism.

Originally posted by Blakemore
Soviet Russia sounds like gypsies.

Basically the state creates everything and nobody owns anything. You can steal and fight however way you want, it doesn't matter. It's true anarchy and everything slowly turns to shit. If you're an American think of drug dealers in trailer parks. That's communism. Just steal whatever you can, no education other than trying not to get caught and, if you do get caught, well, again that's communism.

Yeah communism is dogshit.

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
Therein lies my point: one figure in isolation is not necessarily indicative of white nationalism; it is the collection of all seven figures in the deck of Alt-Right playing cards that matters.

Moreover, you need to read about the Libertarian-to-Alt-Right Pipeline.

The Alt-Right loves to pretend that they are "enlightened centrists" and "Libertarians" who reject the GOP, and just have "totally valid concerns about Jewish replacement theory."

Lol The Daily Beast. May as well post Daily Kos while you're using "credible sources". 😆

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
Yeah, DDM for instance.

They all pretend to be Libertarians, because "Republican" carries too much baggage now.

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
They all pretend to be Libertarians, because "Republican" carries too much baggage now.

I'm a market anarchist, which is the end conclusion of libertarian thought.

Establishment republicans (neo-cons) are all ex Marxists, specifically of a trotskyist slant. No shit I wouldn't sympathize with cucked lefties.

That's why people contrast neo-cons with what's called the old right, which was entirely compromised of proponents of small government and opponents of interventionism.

The shift from the old right to the new right aka establishment repubs aka the gop was largely instigated by Irving kristol, who was a Marxist.

But nice try.

Neo-conservatism started in the 1940s to maintain Western culture after the war. It's very restrictive against any ideology that doesn't fit their very narrow minded view of the good ol' days. This can apply to the presidencies of Eisenhower and Nixon. Reagan, however campaigned under neo-liberalism, which was mostly maintaining neo-conservatism, unless you can make a bigger profit.

Take cannabis for example, Nixon purged all information about cannabis and Vietnam to keep the population ignorant. Reagan's plan was to sell them the tools to publish the information, but invest in prisons to arrest anyone caught using it and force them to work in those prisons for our companies.

It's like picking slavery over genocide.

Originally posted by Blakemore
Neo-conservatism started in the 1940s to maintain Western culture after the war. It's very restrictive against any ideology that doesn't fit their very narrow minded view of the good ol' days. This can apply to the presidencies of Eisenhower and Nixon. Reagan, however campaigned under neo-liberalism, which was mostly maintaining neo-conservatism, unless you can make a bigger profit.

Take cannabis for example, Nixon purged all information about cannabis and Vietnam to keep the population ignorant. Reagan's plan was to sell them the tools to publish the information, but invest in prisons to arrest anyone caught using it and force them to work in those prisons for our companies.

It's like picking slavery over genocide.

Damn, Blakey. Nice post dude.

Thanks. 😄 👆

Although, I did want to mention the red scare under Eisenhower, which Reagan was a part of to stop socialised medicine. And I wanted to mention more about Vietnam protesters under Johnson and Nixon, but I think we all know that to death. Thank god the 80's showed us so many lovely films like The Deer Hunter, Full Metal Jacket, Platoon and Apocalypse Now.

Matthew, Mark, Luke and John. The books of the 'New Testament'.

Translation for rednecks:

Matty, Marky, Duke and Johnboy. The gospel of Jeeebus!

I still like Rene Descarte because of of his "I think, therefore I am." Great man

Rabbi Yeshua Ben Yoshef

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