Mr Majestic vs World Breaker Hulk

Started by Stoic3 pages
Originally posted by Surtur
You really didn't explain how Hulk thunderclaps before Majestic blitzes him. Since if they are both bloodlusted then Maj is going to use his speed the second the fight begins and he reacts and moves at far quicker speeds.

I didn't think that I had to explain it. The Hulk's stats all increase with his level of strength. A far weaker Hulk than the one being used in this thread hit Sentry precisely on the chin as he flew in to blitz him. During HOTM, Red She Hulk and the Hulk jumped towards each other and punched each other at speeds equal to or greater than the speed at which Majestic would be flying. The question here is how fast they were actually moving in order to create the damage that they did. This means that without a doubt, that HOTM Hulk is more than capable of reacting to those kinds of speeds. One thunder clap as I said from the start is all that would be needed. These two aren't remotely in the same strength or physical class.

Wow. I was unaware that Hulk possesses > nanosecond-level speed, because he was able to sock Sentry in the face. Learn something new every day...

Shut it Galan.

I was able to react to a baseball flying at me just the other day.

Darksaint = nanosecond clapping, confirmed.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Shut it Galan.

I was able to react to a baseball flying at me just the other day.

Darksaint = nanosecond clapping, confirmed.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Shut it Galan.

I was able to react to a baseball flying at me just the other day.

Darksaint = nanosecond clapping, confirmed.

Footage or it didn't happen.

Originally posted by Galan007
Wow. I was unaware that Hulk possesses > nanosecond-level speed, because he was able to sock Sentry in the face. Learn something new every day...

It shouldn't take too much to come to the realization that just being able to punch someone moving as fast as the Red She Hulk while moving at the speeds that they were meant that WB Hulk was able to react in the nanosecond range. Or are we going to attempt the clown routine instead or simply accepting that he was capable of doing that on panel? The Sentry feat was simply just one example of him in a far weaker state doing that which you didn't think of before posting that Majestic would fly over and dice him up. You didn't bother to consider that yes the Hulk in this thread would clap and turn Majestic to dust. Instead you went with the if they got physical majestic would be ragdolled, which is also selling the hulk short. WB Hulk would kill him. Red She Hulk was stronger than Majestic, and cut him with a sword enchanted by Odin, and it didn't look like she was holding back.

Holy shit. You're serious. none

So the scene when Shulk and WBH leap at one another signifies a nanosecond-level speed feat, iyo? Lol, care to back that up with any sort of legitimate evidence at all, or are you just going full-carver and pretending your opinion = canon?

*Rhetorical question, btw. I know for a fact that you cannot back up this...'logic'...with anything other than personal conjecture. 👆

Originally posted by Galan007
Holy shit. You're serious. none

So the scene when Shulk and WBH leap at one another signifies a nanosecond-level speed feat, iyo? Lol, care to back that up with any sort of legitimate evidence at all, or are you just going full-carver and pretending your opinion = canon?

*Rhetorical question, btw. I know for a fact that you cannot back up this...'logic'...with anything other than personal conjecture. 👆

Because although relativistic mass really does not exist, most comic book writers believe that speed equals mass. This is what the Flash's infamous Infinite Mass Punch comes from. What happened when the Hulk, and the Red She Hulk collided was as much a strength feat, as it was a speed feat, unless you want to say that they weren't actually traveling at a great velocity? Since in my opinion they were moving that fast and when they collided the planet below them exploded indicating both speed, and strength of arms.

Because of the speed that they were traveling if they were not capable of reacting, neither of them would have been able to punch each other, which was not the case. Insulting Carver won't actually make your argument any better. It actually just makes you look pompous, in a arrogant way. So, since we know that the Hulk at lower levels has reacted to a blitz from characters as fast as majestic, and that he did it at a much weaker level, we know that at a far greater level, that he would be able to easily react to a character of Majestic's speed level taking into consideration the starting distance.

To hammer this idea further into your head, it was actually stated that the Hulk's healing factor, as well as his durability spiked with his strength. Thus, it would not be hard for anyone to realize or it shouldn't be hard at least, for anyone to come to the realization that a stronger hulk would be able to leap at a faster rate of speed, since it is actually the strength of his legs that propel him at these crazy speeds. So as underhanded as you may want to become over this issue, I think that it would be wise, to first think about what it is that I am saying before insulting my intelligence once again.

In my opinion, World Breaker Hulk would react on time. He would thunder clap, and this would kill Majestic. Red She Hulk cut the Hulk with an enchanted sword. it did not kill him. He healed instantly from it. Wolverine took note that it was more difficult to cut the Hulk. Mind you this was when the hulk was drastically less powerful than he was when he was in the Dark Dimension. Could Wolverines claws cut Majestic's thumb like what was seen when he cut it with his sword? I don't see any reason why it should not. Once again, WB Hulk's durability spiked well above what it was when Wolverine was rendered nearly brain dead when he fought against the Green Scar. I'm sure that we don't have to argue that the Green Scar was the exact same Hulk that we refer to as WW Hulk.

Originally posted by Stoic
Because although relativistic mass really does not exist, most comic book writers believe that speed equals mass. This is what the Flash's infamous Infinite Mass Punch comes from. What happened when the Hulk, and the Red She Hulk collided was as much a strength feat, as it was a speed feat, unless you want to say that they weren't actually traveling at a great velocity? Since in my opinion they were moving that fast and when they collided the planet below them exploded indicating both speed, and strength of arms.

Because of the speed that they were traveling if they were not capable of reacting, neither of them would have been able to punch each other, which was not the case. Insulting Carver won't actually make your argument any better. It actually just makes you look pompous, in a arrogant way. So, since we know that the Hulk at lower levels has reacted to a blitz from characters as fast as majestic, and that he did it at a much weaker level, we know that at a far greater level, that he would be able to easily react to a character of Majestic's speed level taking into consideration the starting distance.

To hammer this idea further into your head, it was actually stated that the Hulk's healing factor, as well as his durability spiked with his strength. Thus, it would not be hard for anyone to realize or it shouldn't be hard at least, for anyone to come to the realization that a stronger hulk would be able to leap at a faster rate of speed, since it is actually the strength of his legs that propel him at these crazy speeds. So as underhanded as you may want to become over this issue, I think that it would be wise, to first think about what it is that I am saying before insulting my intelligence once again.

In my opinion, World Breaker Hulk would react on time. He would thunder clap, and this would kill Majestic. Red She Hulk cut the Hulk with an enchanted sword. it did not kill him. He healed instantly from it. Wolverine took note that it was more difficult to cut the Hulk. Mind you this was when the hulk was drastically less powerful than he was when he was in the Dark Dimension. Could Wolverines claws cut Majestic's thumb like what was seen when he cut it with his sword? I don't see any reason why it should not. Once again, WB Hulk's durability spiked well above what it was when Wolverine was rendered nearly brain dead when he fought against the Green Scar. I'm sure that we don't have to argue that the Green Scar was the exact same Hulk that we refer to as WW Hulk.

oh my god

Yeeeah.

I don't even think I have seen even carver himself try to seriously argue that Hulk has nanosecond-level speed. I'm speechless. none

Not only is Hulk a high-end brick, but he's evidently a high-end speedster as well. Amazeballs. 👆

Majestic isn't faster in combat than Hulk.

He can run or fly faster but that's all. Period with the nonsenses.

Originally posted by Galan007
Yeeeah.

I don't even think I have seen even carver himself try to seriously argue that Hulk has nanosecond-level speed. I'm speechless. none

Not only is Hulk a high-end brick, but he's evidently a high-end speedster as well. Amazeballs. 👆

Yeah well we all have our opinions right? Sentry proves it. What you stated did not even begin to disprove what I wrote. If a baseball player hits a ball moving at 113 MPH which is quite a feat by normal human standards, that particular baseball player can prove that he or she can react to those speeds. Neither Sentry or Red She Hulk was moving slow when the Hulk hit them square. This isn't hard stuff to realize. I gave you proof that World Breaker Hulk could actually hit Majestic, and you say nope not going to happen as if Majestic is impossible to hit. It would be far easier for the Hulk to thunder clap in terms of hit percentages, than it would be for Majestic to fly on in and use a sword that may or may not actually kill him. i base the last part on the idea on Red She Hulk being stronger than Majestic is, when she attempted to cut WB Hulk in half but failed to do so with an enchanted blade.

This isn't really something that I need to continue stating when there is on panel proof that proves my argument. There you go again with the condescending horseshit. The Hulk was and should have been easily considered a speedster in terms of his jumping speed.

I heard that the Hulk might have some high-end Magic feats we haven't heard about too, tucked away in his raggedy purple trousers. Doctor Strange is nervous.

Seriously, does anyone have an actual scan of Hulk performing at Majestic/Superman/ Gladiator - speeds ? (By 'performing' I mean 'clapping'😉 I know I am probably out of touch but did he get an upgrade or something? I thought he was just really, really, really strong.

Except Majestic can, and has, operated by the nanosecond on panel... In a battle no less. I posted the scan already. No opinions required... He actually DID IT.

This Hulk-wank that desperately tries to paint him as an upper-echelon speedster is absolutely ridicu....

...You know what, I'll just stop. I feel like 'logic' has no place here. 👆

Originally posted by RealityWarper
Majestic isn't faster in combat than Hulk.

He can run or fly faster but that's all. Period with the nonsenses.

This wasn't something that i stated. I said that the Hulk has reacted to people flying as fast as Majestic can fly, and has done so several times. Not that he can move as fast as Majestic can in combat. The Hulk has and can use his thunder clap to easily stop Majestic. At least this particular Hulk can.

This collision caused major destruction.

http://static7.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_large/11121/111213429/5092940-3536051049-50912.jpg

Sentry really doesn't look like he was moving slow here. Or does he?

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11113/111139434/3693991-7929098399-Hulk-.jpg

My reasoning

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MdXw-GQ2jy8

Originally posted by RealityWarper
Majestic isn't faster in combat than Hulk.

He can run or fly faster but that's all. Period with the nonsenses.

Majestros has displayed superior combat speed on numerous occasions.

Hulk is indeed fast. I agree with that. But there are MANY levels of superspeed. Most speedsters aren't moving at ftl speeds when Hulk hits them. Sentry could have been moving up to 1000 times faster than a bullet when WWH hit him. But that's still a far cry from nanosecond reactions.

So it's faulty to equate superspeed with unlimited speed. Spider-Man is fast but never nanosecond fast. Hulk is fast, maybe even microsecond fast (which is generous), but nanosecond fast is 1000 times faster.

Anyway, characters need to accelerate from rest to achieve a certain speed. From 500m away, how soon can Majestic get to Hulk if he's starting from rest? How soon can Hulk thunderclap? Will Majestic rush Hulk with full speed right off the bat? Will Hulk attempt to thunderclap right off the bat? Can the sword hurt Hulk significantly? These are important questions.

Idk who wins. If Hulk hits Majestic then it is over. If those swords can cut through Hulk like butter then Majestic can win if he manages to dice Hulk in time. Interesting fight I say.