I was wrong about the Presidential Election

Here is a post to Stigma I made a few weeks ago regarding Hillary vs. Trump:

Originally posted by dadudemon
It seems like you're an educated and even-tempered poster. We can get along juuuuuuuuuust fine. 🙂

FYI, I'm an arrogant a**hole who thinks he knows everything. When I'm proven right [that Hillary will win] after the general election, I won't prance around or do a victory dance. I will just slightly nod my head in satisfaction as the outcome was comfortably within my foresight. An inexorable outcome from my lofty position. And that position? With my nose held high into the air. Even the commoners say that my eyes are on top of my head.

And if I'm wrong? Well well well...my pride is not so large that I cannot utter a concession in the extremely rare and astronomically small chance I am incorrect. But we all know I won't have to swallow my pride. Haha...ha......ha?

I was wrong about the general election. Hillary did NOT win. The pollsters were wrong.

Since he had the grace and decorum to be respectful and have an adult debate about it, I'll have the grace and decorum to simply return his respect:

I concede to Stigma, and people like Stigma, who called me out on my complacency and arrogance and properly called the election. He correctly pointed out the fallacies in the polls from the out-of-touch pollsters. He called exactly what was going on with the polling that was taking place and he politely and respectfully called me out on my blind faith in them, too.

We all know why I was wrong and I readily admit it. But why did you incorrectly call this election (for those that thought Hillary was very likely to win)? Please use this thread to respectfully discuss where you went wrong. And please don't be smug or disrespectful about your concessions...if you were wrong, you were wrong. Admit it and move on. I'm more interested in WHY so many of us were wrong.

Dude, seriously..... kudos to you. You are the man 👆

Also, with all the fun and banter we have on this forum, this thread seems to be a very reasonable choice.

Hey man it's okay, I was wrong too, I told people this corrupt manipulator was sure to win. Boy is my face red....from laughter.

Originally posted by Surtur
Hey man it's okay, I was wrong too, I told people this corrupt manipulator was sure to win. Boy is my face red....from laughter.

Originally posted by Surtur
Hey man it's okay, I was wrong too, I told people this corrupt manipulator was sure to win. Boy is my face red....from laughter.

😆

And I'm sitting here thinking "FUUUCK! That damn expensive wall that I was butthurt about!" 😆

I mean, come ON...a majority of people reluctantly voted for Trump, according to exit polling (but let's not trust those polls, dammit...they made me wrong and we all know how much I hate being wrong). So why are people acting like we have a hard-on for Trump? I didn't vote for him. I always said he was shit. I just didn't think he'd win.

A lot of ppl were commenting about the polling being biased in order to try a d swing the election towards Clinton (the way it secured her the DNC nom vs Sanders). Maybe there was some truth in all this? If so, it may have ended up working against the Clinton campaign as it gave them a false sense of security.

This is just a whack made up theory with little/no proof so pls don't take it seriously. Just spitballing here.

In all seriousness when I woke up and the first thing I saw on my phone was an article called "What Trump's victory says about women" I did an actual double take. I thought I was groggy and had just read it wrong.

That is why those who voted for Trump are acting this way. While I'm sure some will try to say they predicted he'd win all along, I think most people knew he really had no chance, so this is very strange and surreal.

But also really really funny. Every time a state went to Trump an SJW died of a brain aneurysm.

Originally posted by Surtur
But also really really funny. Every time a state went to Trump an SJW died of a brain aneurysm.

😆

crylaugh

I'm really really enjoying the butthurt echoing across the internet, right now. It feels so damn good.

Originally posted by dadudemon
😆

crylaugh

I'm really really enjoying the butthurt echoing across the internet, right now. It feels so damn good.

This is like the exact opposite of what Obi Wan felt when they destroyed Alderann.

BTW For the sake of the thread, this was my original post to DDM:

(cannot quote it, so I copied it, well... part of it)

Let me explain. I am addressing the phenomenon that is observable lately, as I mentioned, liberal candidates/policies overestimated in polls in Britain, Poland, Austria and others. This is a general trend of liberal media “creating reality” rather than reporting on it. It is also a product of a visible cultural shift, but this may be too deep of a topic to tackle now.

BTW I do not take credit for this idea, I’ve heard it some time ago:

Polls are like scientific hypothesis. Yu can take a sample and look for patters. However, there is always a way to produce results that better suit your purposes. For instance, the sample (in this case, people you are polling in respect to area, education, sex, race etc.) In other word, the mainstream can manipulate the results of the polls being partial to a given sample group.

Moreover, the importance of empirical evidence (real life observations) must be highlighted. When Obama drew crowds during his speeches before the election, liberals proclaimed it to be a clear sign of his imminent victory. Trump draws crowds by the thousands, Hillary does not. Not even close.

The empirical evidence in the real world does not correspond to mainstream polls, ergo, the polls do not reflect reality in the best manner. Not the other way around.

I am also thinking you may be overestimating the polls in geenral. They may be an indication, but the aforementioned “change” factor, plus the reach of the social platforms will do their job.

Feel free co comment on it.

Originally posted by Surtur
This is like the exact opposite of what Obi Wan felt when they destroyed Alderann.

"I felt a great disturbance from the Social Justice Warriors, as if millions of voices suddenly cried out in terror, and were suddenly silenced. I fear something terrible has happened."

-Obi Wan Trumpobi

I think when it comes to polls one key figure is the amount of people who are coming out to vote. That plays a key role, and it seems a lot more people came out than had been predicted.

Originally posted by Surtur
I think when it comes to polls one key figure is the amount of people who are coming out to vote. That plays a key role, and it seems a lot more people came out than had been predicted.

Originally posted by Stigma
BTW For the sake of the thread, this was my original post to DDM:

(cannot quote it, so I copied it, well... part of it)

Feel free co comment on it.

Yeah, reading this, I have a different perspective then when I read it the first time. I was thinking, "Oh, yeah...that's actually right...and it seems very obvious, now."

Like Surtur i actually thought Hillary had this in the bag.

I think many people voted for Trump, not because they liked him as a candidate, but because they hate the status quo way too much.

I was wrong because my patriotism blinded me to the stupidity of the average American.

Dry your tears

Originally posted by Tzeentch
I was wrong because my patriotism blinded me to the stupidity of the average American.

It's the tears that are blinding you, not patriotism.

It's pkay bro, just take a washcloth and wipe it away. Preferably a Trump Tower washcloth.

That just Zeus giving Trump a thumbs up.

http://uk.businessinsider.com/artificial-intelligence-trump-win-2016-10

http://indianexpress.com/article/opinion/columns/us-elections-campaign-artificial-intelligence-mogia-hillary-clinton-donald-trump-politics-3944453/

http://www.cnbc.com/2016/10/28/donald-trump-will-win-the-election-and-is-more-popular-than-obama-in-2008-ai-system-finds.html

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-elections/mogia-ai-system-that-correctly-predicted-last-3-us-elections-says-donald-trump-will-win-artificial-a7384671.html

http://www.nextbigfuture.com/2016/11/artificial-intelligence-mogia-predicted.html