Re: The Electoral College in the US: modify, keep, or discard it?
Originally posted by dadudemon
What are your ideas? I want to read them.
Not sure how old i was when i learned about the electoral system, but emotionally it was akin to being told there was no Santa.
Everything i'd believed about democracy and the way voting worked turned out to be a lie.
Granted i got over it pretty quick, but i still think its a crap system.
I find this system old and not needed. However, I'm quite sure that if Clinton won the election, but lost the popular vote people would be PRAISING the electoral college.
So the hypocrisy is still quite funny.
Most people truly didn't give this system much thought until the unthinkable happened. What a disturbing lack of foresight.
Plus: funny!
It's still amusing to me because I know the same people denouncing this as archaic would be have huge hard on's for it if it ended up leading to a Clinton victory.
Sort of like they all loved the FBI until they dared to look at some new evidence. Then suddenly they were bad and in Trump's pocket.
If you guys want some real comedy gold read the Huffington Post article about them giving reasons why their polls were so so hilariously wrong.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/pollster-forecast-donald-trump-wrong_us_5823e1e5e4b0e80b02ceca15
Hilarious!
You know all the shit the media pulled ended up being worth it just to watch them losing their god damn minds over how wrong and how out of touch they are.
This all back fired spectacularly in everyone's face and THIS is why I said the butthurt over a Trump win would vastly exceed the butthurt over a Trump loss. It's not just about the loss, it's about just the sheer reality check so many had to deal with. I found Stephen Colbert's tears especially delicious.
Of course he didn't win. Hillary got more votes than Trump and therefore she's the legitimate President-elect.
Let's not quibble about the Electoral College folks. America stands for DEMOCRACY and that means that the individual with the most votes wins. Somebody running for governor or US senator gets the job if he or she gets the most votes in a state. We don't apportion votes on a regional basis such that voters in El Paso county (population about 900K) get one elector as do voters in next door Hudspeth county (population about 0).
Trump lost the popular vote and he should urge his electors to vote for Hillary, the legitimate next president. Hillary won, Trump lost, live with it.
It should stay the same no matter what party wins. We are not a democracy, we are a federal republic, which is a million times better. Democracy's is mob rule and then they rob their treasury and then there goes the country.
America doesn't stand for DEMOCRACY! That is a huge lie by the main stream media and from the Democratic Party. We stand for people to decide their own future's. You are to be LEFT ALONE, and under a Democracy that will never happen! Its amazing in 2016 people get this mixed up. . smh
Edit: And NO it's not old, its a very up to date system, what is old is having a popular vote decide everything...
Originally posted by Ayelewis
Of course he didn't win. Hillary got more votes than Trump and therefore she's the legitimate President-elect.Trump lost the popular vote and he should urge his electors to vote for Hillary, the legitimate next president. Hillary won, Trump lost, live with it.
I know right, that crazy constitution and electoral college.
Originally posted by Ayelewis
Of course he didn't win. Hillary got more votes than Trump and therefore she's the legitimate President-elect.Let's not quibble about the Electoral College folks. America stands for DEMOCRACY and that means that the individual with the most votes wins. Somebody running for governor or US senator gets the job if he or she gets the most votes in a state. We don't apportion votes on a regional basis such that voters in El Paso county (population about 900K) get one elector as do voters in next door Hudspeth county (population about 0).
Trump lost the popular vote and he should urge his electors to vote for Hillary, the legitimate next president. Hillary won, Trump lost, live with it.
I suggest taking a civics class as you don't seem to understand quite a few things about the US.
Originally posted by Ayelewis
Of course he didn't win. Hillary got more votes than Trump and therefore she's the legitimate President-elect.Let's not quibble about the Electoral College folks. America stands for DEMOCRACY and that means that the individual with the most votes wins. Somebody running for governor or US senator gets the job if he or she gets the most votes in a state. We don't apportion votes on a regional basis such that voters in El Paso county (population about 900K) get one elector as do voters in next door Hudspeth county (population about 0).
Trump lost the popular vote and he should urge his electors to vote for Hillary, the legitimate next president. Hillary won, Trump lost, live with it.
Because I know if Trump won the popular vote, but lost the election..you'd be saying Hilary should be urging people to vote for Trump, right?
Alright, dudes, here is the data with the Electoral Votes Proportionally Distributed. Sorry, Trump fans, Trump did not win enough votes in each state to edge out Hillary and specifically because of NY and CA, Hillary wins this alternative way of distribution. By the way, I tried it both ways: direct proportionally and one where each state has a clear winner (meaning, if they are nearly even, they don't get 2 EVs, each, the winner gets 3 and the loser gets 1). That way, there are not ties in each state. However, that did not change the final numbers, at all, so I stuck with my method of giving each state a clear winner. Here is the result:
The only way Trump wins this election is through the current system even though Hillary barely won the popular vote. Sorry, that's the way it is when you analyze the numbers.