Originally posted by The Ellimist
I think the loss probably helps Hillary's support within the democratic party.Nonetheless, Bernie and Warren are probably going to be a lot more visible now.
Do you think behind the scenes with the democrats there is a lot of finger pointing going on? I don't mean at people outside the party.
I like Bernie, but he's already 75 and by the next time an election comes around he'll be nearly 80. You think Clinton might try to run again in 2020?
Originally posted by Surtur
Do you think behind the scenes with the democrats there is a lot of finger pointing going on? I don't mean at people outside the party.I like Bernie, but he's already 75 and by the next time an election comes around he'll be nearly 80. You think Clinton might try to run again in 2020?
Her time to shine was in 08.
I don't see Bernie or Hillary on the ticket in 2020. By then there will be a younger fresher face to offer up to the masses and that is an easier sell then experience/baggaged candidates.
The Clintons are done. This embarrassing defeat cements that. They will just give speeches and fade into obscurity.
Bernie, at the moment, is now the defacto leader of the democratic party and liberals in the country. Liberals will look to him for leadership right now, and probably for the next few years at least. And while I seriously doubt he will run again in 2020 (though he isn't ruling it out), I do think he will have massive influence on the next election. Whoever he passes the torch to will be seen as the future of the party.
I think the democrats need to blow their party up, move towards a more populist message like the one Bernie championed, and remove the seeds of corruption and filth that cost them this election.
To be honest, Bernie Sanders was much better candidate than Hillary Clinton, from the Democrats camp. However, their infatuation with Hillary and and corruption, cost them badly.
You endorse a candidate for President on merit; not on the basis of ideals like feminism. From the top, people expect results and policies that can improve their lifestyle, not political correctness.
And yes, era of Clintons is over.
Originally posted by snowdragon
Maybe, except we still have Chelsea Clinton that could step into the ranks of politics.
Democrats need a new face (and agenda). If this election hasn't taught them anything, they are done for (on the whole) for a while.
Originally posted by Tzeentch
Trump being option B is literally the only appealing thing she had going for her.
This is a very accurate summary. I'm stealing this.
A feminist I am friends with said, "Why the hell did the first female presidential candidate who had a chance have to be Hillary?!??!" She was so mad. And I'm actually kind of sad that we didn't get our first female president but, holy shit, why did it have to be Hillary as the option?
Originally posted by dadudemon
This is a very accurate summary. I'm stealing this.A feminist I am friends with said, "Why the hell did the first female presidential candidate who had a chance have to be Hillary?!??!" She was so mad. And I'm actually kind of sad that we didn't get our first female president but, holy shit, why did it have to be Hillary as the option?