Left vs Right. The THREAD!
Left vs Right. The THREAD!
If the Right doesn't want a large government, why do they want the government to do such petty and economically irrelevant things as regulate whether gay people can get married, or whether people should be allowed to smoke weed?
If you're looking for some sort of first principles ideological consistency in the Right, it's resistance to unintuitive or new ideas/people.
Originally posted by The Ellimist
If the Right doesn't want a large government, why do they want the government to do such petty and economically irrelevant things as regulate whether gay people can get married, or whether people should be allowed to smoke weed?If you're looking for some sort of first principles ideological consistency in the Right, it's resistance to unintuitive or new ideas/people.
The Right never wanted to regulate marriage, that was the Left, because they wanted to make sure white's and black's wasn't going to marry, the right is resistent to immoral behaviour whether you believe them to be 'new ideas' or not. These 'new ideas' don't build family's which is the foundation of carrying on human civilization. Who wouldn't want a new little you running around? Its one of the greatest things to experience and many don't get the joy of it.
Proof the left vs right narrative is a false choice:
Pro life liberals. They exist. They used to be a majority representation in congress.
Then the republicans realized "holy crap, this cut into our gig.", while the democrats reasoned "Anyone who isn't voting democrat based on this issue is a republican anyways".
And so we have pro life democrats being marginalized to the point of being some mythical unicorn in politics..
I guess I'll be the one to say it: the left and the right are for..power. That is what they are about. It's not about big governments, small governments, hugh mungus governments, it's about a path to power, and they both want it.
They care about their own interests, they don't really care about the country. The main differences seem to be the path these people have decided to take in order to achieve that power.
You know for all our talk about democracy, and especially for all the talk about it in this country lately..whether it was people worried that Trump not accepting the election results would ruin things, etc. We don't seem to live in a true democracy anymore though. So what specifically are people trying to protect? The mere idea of a democracy?
Originally posted by Surtur
I guess I'll be the one to say it: the left and the right are for..power. That is what they are about. It's not about big governments, small governments, hugh mungus governments, it's about a path to power, and they both want it.They care about their own interests, they don't really care about the country. The main differences seem to be the path these people have decided to take in order to achieve that power.
You know for all our talk about democracy, and especially for all the talk about it in this country lately..whether it was people worried that Trump not accepting the election results would ruin things, etc. We don't seem to live in a true democracy anymore though. So what specifically are people trying to protect? The mere idea of a democracy?
They're protecting subscriptions, click revenue, demographic ratings, dues and donations for "causes"..
So yeah, money + power + keeping a good racket going.
Originally posted by kevdude
The Right never wanted to regulate marriage, that was the Left, because they wanted to make sure white's and black's wasn't going to marry, the right is resistent to immoral behaviour whether you believe them to be 'new ideas' or not. These 'new ideas' don't build family's which is the foundation of carrying on human civilization. Who wouldn't want a new little you running around? Its one of the greatest things to experience and many don't get the joy of it.
This post is so close to crossing over from "uninformed" to "completely retarded" that I do not know if it warrants a response.
First, 15 of the 16 states with antimiscegenation laws were in the former-Confederacy, and 10 out of 16 of those laws were passed before the Democratic party was formed.
Furthermore, nearly half of children are born out of wedlock in the U.S., so marriage is not necessary to "carry on the human race."
So yes, conservatives, both historically and contemporaneously, are the ones who want to regulate who can marry whom.
Sums it up, right down to the people caught in the middle.