Originally posted by Bashar Teg
so desperate to derail.
I apologize bro, was this thread meant to encourage intelligent discourse? Because the this line in your OP:
"stranger and stranger. glenn must be having dr. frankenstein's remorse, considering that his narrative and hysteria driven not-news helped create this monster. "
followed by the Anakin gif just didn't really give off that impression.
Nobody is afraid to see people discuss this man. Plus I genuinely feel like the posters that I assume you want to be discussing this with you aren't going to stop because Surtur said something.
Also the first few responses in the topic just seemed to be you and Rob patting each other on the back. I'm not complaining over that behavior, I'm just saying that certain behaviors can perhaps lead others to not take a topic as seriously as the OP might want.
But I'm legitimately apologizing here. I wouldn't like for people to come in and derail my topic.
So yeah..obviously this is not a good thing for Trump to do and not a good sign overall. At this point I can only hope he makes some drastic roster changes before he takes office.
But on a serious note and try to make up for past derailment, these are things I'd protest. We can't prevent a Trump presidency, but we can try to prevent him from taking advice from terrible people.
I would target specific things if I was truly someone who needed to be out protesting. Protest Steve Bannon, protest the fact there is even involvement between Trump and him. He needs to go.
Originally posted by Surtur
But on a serious note and try to make up for past derailment, these are things I'd protest. We can't prevent a Trump presidency, but we can try to prevent him from taking advice from terrible people.I would target specific things if I was truly someone who needed to be out protesting. Protest Steve Bannon, protest the fact there is even involvement. He needs to go.
I'm sure there are some people protesting over Bannon specifically.
The thing about these protests are that there are so many going on, and so many people involved, that many are probably protesting over different aspects of the election.
Some might be protesting because they think Trump is racist, some might be because they don't want a wall, some might be because they feel like democracy cheated them, some might be because of Bannon's pick as chief strategist, some might be because they fear for gay rights and abortion rights. Some might be because they think Trump is sexist. It's kind of hard for an individual protestor to really specify to the public why exactly they are protesting something like that while they're in a mass of humanity.
Originally posted by BackFire
I'm sure there are some people protesting over Bannon specifically.The thing about these protests are that there are so many going on, and so many people involved, that many are probably protesting over different aspects of the election.
Some might be protesting because they think Trump is racist, some might be because they don't want a wall, some might be because they feel like democracy cheated them, some might be because of Bannon's pick as chief strategist, some might be because they fear for gay rights and abortion rights. Some might be because they think Trump is sexist. It's kind of hard for an individual protestor to really specify to the public why exactly they are protesting something like that while they're in a mass of humanity.
I understand, I just meant specify with like a sign or something. With Trump we're going to need to get specific. Though yeah there are still so many groups.
Since it has to do with the topic:
"This is a someone who has expressed racist, sexist, anti-Semitic, anti-LGBT sentiments," Stabenow, a member of Senate Democrat leadership, added to reporters. "This is someone whose views do not belong in the White House." -snip
Not sure they'll get anywhere with that, Trump has expressed similar views on a few of those topics and his VP Pence is an outright hater of the LGBT community.
Originally posted by BackFireSome might be protesting cuz they didn't vote, and now they feel guilty as hell and figure if they protest hard enough it will make it all better.
...some might be because they feel like democracy cheated them...
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I think this beautifully illustrates the relationship between rights and responsibility, that you don't have one without the other. We all hear about the *right to vote*; nary a peep about one's *responsibility to vote.* To choose not to vote, or to vote for a chair (ie, voting for someone who has as much chance to win as a chair -- thank you, SNL), IMO, is exercising one's right to vote irresponsibly. It may make You feel better ("I voted my conscience" -- 😘 ), but it does nothing for the country. Vote against someone if you have to, but be responsible with your rights: Cast. A. Vote. And you won't have to guilt-protest later.
/rant
Violent protest is stupid, do it peacefully if you feel you must, but it's understandable the anger some people feel considering Trump's campaign of bigotry, fear and anger. Trump and his supporters are really to blame for triggering the weak willed.
Compare that to the people setting things on fire after Obama won, they did it because Obama was too black and too Muslim-y in their little timid minds; not because Obama was calling groups of people rapist, wanting to ban others and degrading women.
Originally posted by Robtard
Violent protest is stupid, do it peacefully if you feel you must, but it's understandable the anger some people feel considering Trump's campaign of bigotry, fear and anger.
Anger is understandable, behaving like savages is not. Especially when these people were so afraid Trump and his supporters would behave this way.
Trump and his supporters are really to blame for triggering the weak willed.
Good, it's important to identify the weak willed. If someones will is so weak they set fire to stuff because they can't stand who won the election, we need them exposed out in the open.
Just like if someone is so weak they commit a hate crime because of who won the election, we need them exposed as well.
Compare that to the people setting things on fire after Obama won, they did it because Obama was too black and too Muslim-y in their little timid minds; not because Obama was calling groups of people rapist, wanting to ban others and degrading women.
When push comes to shove there is no good reason to set stuff on fire, nor is there really any kind of "it's wrong, but less wrong when this group did it because..." It's just wrong no matter what, you can get angry..you can't set shit on fire or attack people.
kinda relevant: anyone keeping track of the cabinet in-fighting? apparently trump is putting a lot of trust in his son-in-law, Jared Kushner...or given the current climate: (((Jared Kushner))). that's right. not only jewish, but orthodox jew. some are speculating that trump even intends him to be a shadow-president.
that might be a very sweet and poetic irony...a white nationalist having to follow the orders of one of the richest and most powerful jews in the world, who was put into power thanks to the efforts of the alt-right 👆
Originally posted by Bashar Teg
he's derailing the topic because it makes him feel embarrassed, since he just realized that he voted for white nationalism. i would achieve a screaming orgasm of lulz if it turned out that he's not even white.
LoL. This just gets better and better with you.
I spoke of how I feel if people are going to protest they should protest specific things, like Steve Bannon. That lead into a discussion about protests in general, and then to my comment about protests.
Originally posted by Bashar Teg
kinda relevant: anyone keeping track of the cabinet in-fighting? apparently trump is putting a lot of trust in his son-in-law, Jared Kushner...or given the current climate: (((Jared Kushner))). that's right. not only jewish, but orthodox jew. some are speculating that trump even intends him to be a shadow-president.that might be a very sweet and poetic irony...a white nationalist having to follow the orders of one of the richest and most powerful jews in the world, who was put into power thanks to the efforts of the alt-right 👆
Apparently Trump requested the highest level security clearance for him, so he could sit in on the presidential daily intelligence briefings. If true, nepotism at its finest.