Originally posted by SurturSo what your saying is, conservatives would be in the right here because he's inciting child molestation?
But people say free speech should be allowed as long as you aren't inciting others violence or anything shady like that.If Milo said "it's okay to kill people you disagree with" that would be an issue. Just like if he said "molesting kids is okay" that is a problem, that is endorsing it.
You are acting like conservatives wanna be able to shout "fire!" in a crowded theater or some shit and have it be okay.
Originally posted by Beniboybling
So what your saying is, conservatives would be in the right here because he's inciting child molestation?
What I'm saying is that conservatives has not espoused this "you can say literally anything" type view. Not that I have seen from a majority. You can't incite people to violence or acts of sexual abuse, that is NOT covered under free speech.
So can we not pretend like there was previously no limit on what could be said?
Originally posted by Surtur
But people say free speech should be allowed as long as you aren't inciting others violence or anything shady like that.If Milo said "it's okay to kill people you disagree with" that would be an issue. Just like if he said "child rape ain't so bad".
You are acting like conservatives wanna be able to shout "fire!" in a crowded theater or some shit and have it be okay.
The Milo pederast interview isn't new. So your point is moot. But if you're going with that angle, it also applies to Berkeley cancelling him.
Or you could just admit that you're once again using a double standard when it comes to something/anything you view as liberal and we'll just move on.
Originally posted by Robtard
The Milo pederast interview isn't old. So your point is moot.But if you're going with that angle, it also applies to Berkeley.
Or you could just admit that you're once again using a double standard when it comes to something/anything you view as liberal and we'll just move on.
Like I said: he is not owed a platform, period. Nobody said he was owed a private platform to speak.
The people who control the platform disinviting him because it comes out he approves of sexual abuse is not the same as having to cancel because a bunch of dipshits show up and start destroying and setting stuff on fire.
To suggest the two scenarios are the same is moronic at best.
Originally posted by SurturWell darling, I find myself in agreement with you on that, but the argument is on shaky ground when many have been fine with him advocating the shaming and harassment of "trannies", going as far as expose specific transgender students to mock and ridicule, do you feel this is covered under free speech as well?
What I'm saying is that conservatives has not espoused this "you can say literally anything" type view. Not that I have seen from a majority. You can't incite people to violence or acts of sexual abuse, that is NOT covered under free speech.So can we not pretend like there was previously no limit on what could be said?
Originally posted by Beniboybling
Well darling, I find myself in agreement with you on that, but the argument is on shaky ground when many have been fine with him advocating the shaming and harassment of "trannies", going as far as expose specific transgender students to mock and ridicule, do you feel this is covered under free speech as well?
He didn't expose anyone. That student had come out as trans prior to that, and even been on tv no less outing themselves.
Shaming is NOT sexual abuse, please don't compare the two, it's disrespectful to those who have suffered sexual abuse. I'm not condoning shaming, btw. But mocking someone and condoning sexual abuse is wildly different.
Originally posted by SurturUhuh, I meant expose in the respect that he blew up a photo of her on screen, mocked and attacked her in front of an audience, causing her to subsequently drop out of the university, because she was trans. Not sure how you reach the conclusion I was calling that sexual abuse kek. But it is a form of abuse yes. And saying its fine to mock transgender people, is inciting abuse.
He didn't expose anyone. That student had come out as trans prior to that, and even been on tv no less outing themselves.Shaming is NOT sexual abuse, please don't compare the two, it's disrespectful to those who have suffered sexual abuse. I'm not condoning shaming, btw. But mocking someone and condoning sexual abuse is wildly different.
Originally posted by Surtur
Like I said: he is not owed a platform, period. Nobody said he was owed a private platform to speak.The people who control the platform disinviting him because it comes out he approves of sexual abuse is not the same as having to cancel because a bunch of dipshits show up and start destroying and setting stuff on fire.
To suggest the two scenarios are the same is moronic at best.
So you're not going to admit you're using a double standard once again because one's "liberal!". Expected.
Also, LoLz at your ever present resentment of the transsexual community. So weird.
Originally posted by Adam Grimes
Both cause severe mental trauma. Sure, not to the same degree mind you, but severe nonetheless.
Sure, but mocking someone isn't the same as condoning sexual abuse. It's not on the same level at all.
So to summarize: no, disinviting someone who condones the sexual abuse of children isn't hypocritical.
Originally posted by Beniboybling
Especially when directed at a group who have one of the highest rates of suicide on the planet.
It's certainly not nice at all, but mocking someone isn't a crime that I know of. Sexual abuse of children is a horrific crime.
Here is what I find odd: conservatives had to call this out. The liberals are usually quite good at digging up dirt, and with his book deal and then the Berkeley thing you'd think they'd be itching to find anything. Yet there was nary a peep about this.
Originally posted by Robtard
You find it odd that not all conservatives are dirtbags? Lolz. Okay. I don't. eg There's a wide gap between a normal decent conservative and say an Alt-Righty.
I quite clearly said why I found it odd, because I figured the other side would have exposed this long ago. But sure, you can turn that into "you find it odd they're not all dirtbags" if you need to do so.
Originally posted by Surtur
Here is what I find odd: conservatives had to call this out. The liberals are usually quite good at digging up dirt, and with his book deal and then the Berkeley thing you'd think they'd be itching to find anything. Yet there was nary a peep about this.
blaming liberals. lol pathetic.
Originally posted by Robtard
You need to take a breather and relax, today's been a hard day for you with Milo crashing and burning, I can see that. So I'll let you be you, peace.
Lol yikes, you are the one who had a huge emotional reaction to this. All you can do now is the "calm down bro" tactic? Nice.