Do SJWs suffer from mental illnesses?

Originally posted by Newjak
It was trying something different. Obviously it shouldn't have been done but every movement/group on a large enough scale will cause some harm somewhere. I guess the question becomes was the goal really that bad and is there still an issue we should be aware of and fix.

But it doesn't even make any sense to not go after main roads first. You say it was "trying something different". This wasn't someone trying mexican food for the first time or something lol. It was just silly.

Do you believe that there aren't parts of our culture that cause gender issues? Also I tend to find people use labels like SJW to create ways to mock and therefore undermine the messages of those groups.

I believe there are parts that cause issues for *both* genders. I do not believe it's just women who bear the brunt of this.

I also feel people who preach shoddy messages like rape culture in the USA are deserving of being mocked. Why not? You say "undermine the message" as if they have a legit message. This isn't going after people who simply say "stuff is not equal". It's those who specifically go out of their way to create problems that don't exist or highly exaggerate legit issues. They deserve mocking.

Originally posted by Surtur
But it doesn't even make any sense to not go after main roads first. You say it was "trying something different". This wasn't someone trying mexican food for the first time or something lol. It was just silly.

I believe there are parts that cause issues for *both* genders. I do not believe it's just women who bear the brunt of this.

I also feel people who preach shoddy messages like rape culture in the USA are deserving of being mocked. Why not? You say "undermine the message" as if they have a legit message. This isn't going after people who simply say "stuff is not equal". It's those who specifically go out of their way to create problems that don't exist or highly exaggerate legit issues. They deserve mocking.

And most of the SJW people you mock would agree with you. That it causes issues for both genders. Still one gender has reaped more awards from the system more than others.

As to your backhanded comment on rape culture. You do realize it's hard to stand on that when a man was given a slap on the wrist by a judge because he didn't want "ruin the kids life for one mistake". Our culture does have a history of trivializing rape or making it the victim's fault.

Originally posted by Newjak
There issue was they said most women bike therefore not plowing the sidewalks caused more harm to women then it did men. That is a legitimate concern that effects one gender more than the other. Clearly they need a better way to solve it.

Bike paths being cleared before main roads shouldn't be a legit concern.

And most of the SJW people you mock would agree with you. That it causes issues for both genders. Still one gender has reaped more awards from the system more than others.

The very people I mock feel there is a patriarchy and all that shit, so what are you talking about?

As to your backhanded comment on rape culture. You do realize it's hard to stand on that when a man was given a slap on the wrist by a judge because he didn't want "ruin the kids life for one mistake". Our culture does have a history of trivializing rape or making it the victim's fault.

Lol no our culture doesn't have a history of doing that at all. Why did people get so pissed off? Because normally rapists don't get a slap on the wrist like that.

If we're going to use one instance to say this is a rape culture, then I hate to break this to you, but then we're just an everything culture. Every bad thing has had people slip through the system when it comes to punishment, every bad crime you can think of. Which includes lying about rape. So we're simultaneously a rape culture and a lie about rape culture?

Originally posted by Surtur
Bike paths being cleared before main roads shouldn't be a legit concern.

The very people I mock feel there is a patriarchy and all that shit, so what are you talking about?

Lol no our culture doesn't have a history of doing that at all. Why did people get so pissed off? Because normally rapists don't get a slap on the wrist like that.

If we're going to use one instance to say this is a rape culture, then I hate to break this to you, but then we're just an everything culture. Every bad thing has had people slip through the system.

From statistical point of view there patriarchy. Women are less likely to hold leadership positions. They are less likely to be offered those positions. Women who have been compared in similar roles as men tended to make less. While the way our cultural is set up hurts both genders those social norms do tend to give more power to men.

It's not one instance. Remember when the Crosby rape trial was happening. Millions of people rallied against his accusers before evidence was even presented. Things like don't dress certain ways, what did you do to entice him, you must be lying because they waited too long to come forward. These are common things in our culture that happen.

Originally posted by Newjak
Making sure women can get to work as easily as men should be though. Wouldn't you agree?

Dude, main roads. Main. Roads. Ambulances. Fire Trucks, Police. Are they going to be using the bike path?

Clear the non-life saving shit last. It's not a gender thing, it's common sense.

From statistical point of view there patriarchy. Women are less likely to hold leadership positions. They are less likely to be offered those positions. Women who have been compared in similar roles as men tended to make less. While the way our cultural is set up hurts both genders those social norms do tend to give more power to men.

In the sciences and math now women are more likely to be hired. They are also much more likely to receive lenient sentences for violent crimes than a man who does the same thing, and even non-violent crimes.

There is tons of shit to go into like that which..rarely gets talked about. They do not get the "we have it worse" card.

It's not one instance. Remember when the Crosby rape trial was happening. Millions of people rallied against his accusers before evidence was even presented. Things like don't dress certain ways, what did you do to entice him, you must be lying because they waited too long to come forward. These are common things in our culture that happen.

It's more than one instance of someone lying about rape and receiving no punishment.

Do we live in a lie about rape culture, yes or no?

Oh and just to be clear, the things like "oh how did you dress" and all that shit, it happens, but there has been no actual evidence I've ever seen to say it happens a majority of the time. Which is what it would need to have happen in order for it to be a rape culture as opposed to a culture where most care about rape but a few are dicks about it.

Originally posted by Surtur
Dude, main roads. Main. Roads. Ambulances. Fire Trucks, Police. Are they going to be using the bike path?

Clear the non-life saving shit last. It's not a gender thing, it's common sense.

In the sciences and math now women are more likely to be hired. They are also much more likely to receive lenient sentences for violent crimes than a man who does the same thing, and even non-violent crimes.

There is tons of shit to go into like that which..rarely gets talked about. They do not get the "we have it worse" card.

It's more than one instance of someone lying about rape and receiving no punishment.

Do we live in a lie about rape culture, yes or no?

Oh and just to be clear, the things like "oh how did you dress" and all that shit, it happens, but there has been no actual evidence I've ever seen to say it happens a majority of the time. Which is what it would need to have happen in order for it to be a rape culture as opposed to a culture where most care about rape but a few are dicks about it.

Are you actually going to argue that the plights of men and women are objectively the same in our culture? Even looking back only 50 years?

There is a general trend in our culture on the topic of rape that is backwards yes. If for no other reason there is still a trend in our society to force blame on women and make the excuse that men will be men.

Have you ever seen most covered rape cases? Those types of things happen a lot. Never mind rape cover ups that happen on college campus, major organizations, and even in rural areas. Rape is one of those crimes that is least likely to get reported and there is a reason for that.

Originally posted by Newjak
I think you're missing my point. I'm not saying don't clear out the roads first. I'm saying their concern was legitimate and perhaps something smarter needs to be implemented. Or do you believe they don't have a legitmate concern about being able to make it into work?

I understand the point. What I'm saying is it is stupid to make this kind of change in order to try to help these people get to work easier. It's trying to accomplish this is the most hilariously inept way possible.

You say they tried something new like this was something nobody could have foreseen would be an issue. The problem is the obvious was ignored to pander to these people. This *does harm*. Agreed, correct? Harm was caused, whether intentional or not, right?

Are you actually going to argue that the plights of men and women are objectively the same in our culture? Even looking back only 50 years?

The past 50 years? I'm talking about now, right now, today.

There is a general trend in our culture on the topic of rape that is backwards yes. If for no other reason there is still a trend in our society to force blame on women and make the excuse that men will be men.

So yes there is also a "lie about rape" culture? Okay.

Originally posted by Surtur
I understand the point. What I'm saying is it is stupid to make this kind of change in order to try to help these people get to work easier. It's trying to accomplish this is the most hilariously inept way possible.

You say they tried something new like this was something nobody could have foreseen would be an issue. The problem is the obvious was ignored to pander to these people. This *does harm*. Agreed, correct? Harm was caused, whether intentional or not, right?

The past 50 years? I'm talking about now, right now, today.

So yes there is also a "lie about rape" culture? Okay.

Repeat the same question and only limit it to now in that case. Are you actually going to argue that the plights of men and women are objectively the same in our culture?

I'm still trying to figure out what you mean by lie about rape culture? Are you saying do I believe that rape culture is a lie because that is what I thought you meant? In which case if a rape culture makes women afraid or trivializes assault enough for rape to happen then yes there is a rape culture in America.

Originally posted by Newjak
You are missing the point. I said they tried something. Was it stupid yes but does that negate their concerns? Which you have yet to answer?

Nobody said it negates their concerns. It's the way they tried to give in to these idiots. When you try to appease their concerns in a way that lacks any semblance of logic and common sense there is a problem.

Repeat the same question and only limit it to now in that case. Are you actually going to argue that the plights of men and women are objectively the same in our culture?

The plights aren't the same in that we each have different plights. There is no "women have it worse in America" right now though. In the past, sure, but now? I don't think so.

I'm still trying to figure out what you mean by lie about rape culture? Are you saying do I believe that rape culture is a lie because that is what I thought you meant? In which case if a rape culture makes women afraid or trivializes assault enough for rape to happen then yes there is a rape culture in America.

First off: there is no rape culture in America. The things you say happen do not happen a majority of the time.

Second, what I am doing is using your own logic. Brock Turner and some other cases have gotten away with a slap on the wrist. If getting away with rape with a slap on the wrist means we live in a rape culture..we use that logic for other stuff too. So women have lied about being raped. They have lied about this and gotten men put in prison, sometimes for years. Multiple examples where the lie was exposed and the woman who lied about rape received NO punishment at all for it.

So this is how it goes: if we're a rape a culture, we're also a "lie about rape" culture. As in, our culture is just as much one where women lie about rape as it is an actual rape culture. It would have to be if we use the logic you put forth.

If we are a rape culture because people got away with it with a slap on the wrist and trivialize it, we also are in a "women lying about rape" culture. Because we've had women do it and receive not even a slap on the wrist, and how does that not trivialize it?

So now that you know what I mean, we live in a "lie about rape" culture too, correct?

Originally posted by Surtur
Okay, so what if people don't like SJW's and the harm they might cause? Or you know, the harm they do cause:

http://heatst.com/world/feminist-snow-plowing-system-brings-stockholm-to-a-standstill/

This can't be real, this is bar none, one of the dumbest things I've ever seen in my life.

I don't know about in general, but many feminist's certainly seem to be.

Messages like "I'm done with white women" should go a ways towards further marginalizing the cause, at least with any white women looking into the concept and seeing articles yelling at them for problems "in your ranks", as if it's their fault for what other white women do.

Originally posted by Khazra Reborn
This can't be real, this is bar none, one of the dumbest things I've ever seen in my life.

I had to check it too, thought it had to be an Onion article. Nope..it's real, they did this.

Originally posted by Surtur
First off: there is no rape culture in America. The things you say happen do not happen a majority of the time.

I would say that your second sentence is so mild as to be incorrect. It happens so infrequently that it is not even a percentage of a percentage. There are literally billions upon billions of interactions between males and females, every day, in the US, alone. Almost exactly none of them result in rapes, sexual assaults, and getting away with either of them.

The US actually has a very very very strong anti-rape culture. I'm of the opinion that we suffer from a too strong of a "anti-rape culture" because we like to just throw people in prison with flimsy evidence, no evidence, or we simply incarcerate with no intention of legitimately rehabilitating.

Rape culture? No, we definitely do not have one. Anti-rape culture? Factually, we are the worst anti-rape culture in the world. There is not a single municipality that condones rape. And among all of them, all those in power (DAs and ADAs) are very strongly anti-rape or anti-sexual-bad-stuff (do you think any DA would get elected/appointed with a record of being pro-rape or extremely weak on rape?). If there was a case of any municipality being pro-rape or even subversively pro-rape, it would be all over the news and touted by feminists and shithead feminists (I differentiate them because there are damn good feminists out there) as beacons of what they fight against.

Well what I was talking about is the referring to how with rape sometimes cops or people go "oh you were dressed slutty" or "or you did something to entice him" and stuff. That's a very rare occurrence. But people act like this is a routine thing cops and the public do.

I would also ask what countries out there handle rape better than this country?

Originally posted by Surtur
Well what I was talking about is the referring to how with rape sometimes cops or people go "oh you were dressed slutty" or "or you did something to entice him" and stuff. That's a very rare occurrence. But people act like this is a routine thing cops and the public do.

I was also referring to that, too. I was referring to all aspects of rape culture.

Originally posted by Surtur
I would also ask what countries out there handle rape better than this country?

Uhhh...perhaps Germany and Sweden.

Lol, Germany covered up a massive sexual assault spree and Sweden's rape laws are beyond retarded.

Originally posted by Henry_Pym
Lol, Germany covered up a massive sexual assault spree and Sweden's rape laws are beyond retarded.

The question was not which were the best, it was which were better than the US. 🙂

Lol so another funny SJW story with Milo again. He recently gave another talk at some college and one of the professors who works there who is against him held some kind of event at the same time as Milo's talk was and he told his students they'd get extra credit for coming to his event instead of Milo's.

Also yep, it is the professor of a Sociology class.

Here we see more bullshit outrage:

Mother Outraged After Son With Down Syndrome Is Rejected by Modeling Agency

I like how she claims that she had no intention of showing the company in a negative light, when it's rather obvious that her intention was to shame the company into hiring her kid.