Originally posted by ghostman
thor and surfer stomp the second round if this isnt new 52 supesbut post crisis doesnt have the flight speed feats to compare with them.
atleast actual QUANTIFIABLE feats
Originally posted by riv6672
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Surfer isn't even as fast as Spider-Man in reaction speed.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Of course he does.Idiot.
Surfer isn't even as fast as Spider-Man in reaction speed.
show me a feat as quantifiable and as comparable as surfers light years in seconds feat, from post crisis supes. no signal watch from jimmy olsen and him coming in a unspecified time. actually quantifiable
Originally posted by ghostman
show me a feat as quantifiable and as comparable as surfers light years in seconds feat, from post crisis supes. no signal watch from jimmy olsen and him coming in a unspecified time. actually quantifiable
Kal-L and Kal-El taking SBP from somewhere near Oa(Sector 0) to the red sun of krypton which is sector 2813). In moments.
It's all relative though. Green Lanterns have crossed entire universe in hours which Surfer has never done. Yet, they are slower than Superman and Flash. To be faster than Superman you need to be Barry Allen or Wally West and none of these characters are at that level.
Also Surfer used hyperspace to cross lightyears. That's not applicable for his regular speed.
Originally posted by abhilegendNot true. He can choose to but it's not necessary
Also Surfer used hyperspace to cross lightyears. That's not applicable for his regular speed.
Surfer going for the gauntlet Thanos had wasn't hyperspace facilitated, and he crossed a light year in the moment it takes a humanoid to raise and slam their fist down.
Edit* He's stayed within normal space and moved so fast he took Nova (Raye) back in time and once took Thor out of a plane of reality to get back to his native one with sheer speed
Originally posted by abhilegend
Better.Kal-L and Kal-El taking SBP from somewhere near Oa(Sector 0) to the red sun of krypton which is sector 2813). In moments.
It's all relative though. Green Lanterns have crossed entire universe in hours which Surfer has never done. Yet, they are slower than Superman and Flash. To be faster than Superman you need to be Barry Allen or Wally West and none of these characters are at that level.
Also Surfer used hyperspace to cross lightyears. That's not applicable for his regular speed.
thats..... not quantifiable dude, no time or distance was ever established.
Originally posted by psycho gundam
Not true. He can choose to but it's not necessary
In past maybe. In current comics, he almost never goes beyond lightspeed without going in hyperspace.
Surfer going for the gauntlet Thanos had wasn't hyperspace facilitated, and he crossed a light year in the moment it takes a humanoid to raise and slam their fist down.
Yes, and that's nothing compared to the speed needed to take SBP from Oa to krypton.
And Hyperspace as an idea wasn't that popular back then.
Edit* He's stayed within normal space and moved so fast he took Nova (Raye) back in time and once took Thor out of a plane of reality to get back to his native one with sheer speed
First, it was the added speed of Nova and Surfer. And laws of time travel are different in DC and Marvel. In DC you have to enter speed force to travel through time and that needs a connection with speed force.
And in both examples Surfer left the main reality after exceeding speed of light.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Yeah, because it took hours and Oa is just near krypton.Don't be a Carver.
im not, im just trying to get an understanding as to why you think thats better than surfers and quantifiable . i have no doubt that its ftl dude, but come on quantifiable? not even close man. im sure you have something similar for post crisis supes?
