Knightfall Vader vs. Darth Caedus

1. Force
2. Sabers
3. All-out

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There are quotes for Knightfall > LS Anakin, or?

Originally posted by Ursumeles
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There are quotes for Knightfall > LS Anakin, or?

"You have done well, my new apprentice. Do you feel your power growing?"

"Yes, my Master."

"Lord Vader, your skills are unmatched by any Sith before you. Go forth, my boy. Go forth, and bring peace to our Empire."

...

He could feel his power growing, indeed. He had the measure of his “Master” already; not long after Palpatine shared the secret of Darth Plagueis’s discovery, their relationship would undergo a sudden … transformation.

-Revenge Of The Sith

When Padmé Amidala landed on Mustafar, Darth Vader ran to meet her. Full of his new powers, he urged her to join him and take over the galaxy.

-Star Wars Fact File 19 (Relaunched)

Caedus in all.

Vader sweeps all rounds.

Caedus has been debunked.

What was the "debunking" for Caedus beating Kyle Katarn in a few seconds whilst injured, again?

That's assuming Kyle is even all that good from the start, lmao.

Originally posted by SunRazer
What was the "debunking" for Caedus beating Kyle Katarn in a few seconds whilst injured, again?

Originally posted by Deronn_solo
That's assuming Kyle is even all that good from the start, lmao.

Well, given that you're the one wanking Kyle (and Jerec), I've got nothing to lose if we reduce Kyle's standing. 🙂

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I can't bring Caedus down, without lowballing Katarn.

Damn.

Even if Kyle is just B-team level, it's a really good showing for Caedus. And I was under the impression that most users here ranked Kyle higher than that, although there really doesn't seem to be any basis for that.

Kyle is performing HoT-esque feats considerably pre-prime. I see no reason to not place him on at least Fisto's level.

Nearly amputating him after a few seconds of combat while exhausted and injured is arguably one of the best dueling feats in the mythos.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Kyle having allies was a hindrance to him, for some reason.

But they were coordinating! Which means Kyle left his leg unguarded on purpose. He's willing to risk his life on the reaction time of a Jedi Knight!

Kyle is Jinn level by feats, lal.

His army busting feat is over-hyped given the fact he had help from multiple comrades, and he was hardly taking on more than 4 at a time.

Maul simarly taking out Jinn with an injured leg on Tantooine is a showing that shares parity with Caedus showing.

Originally posted by Deronn_solo
Maul simarly taking out Jinn with an injured leg on Tantooine is a showing that shares parity with Caedus showing.

Originally posted by Deronn_solo
Kyle is Jinn level by feats, lal.

His army busting feat is over-hyped given the fact he had help from multiple comrades, and he was hardly taking on more than 4 at a time.

Same thing could be said for HoT or Meetra, tbh. And the ones Katarn fought were listed as "matches for Jedi Masters" and were stated as being "high-level villains in any era". That's an accolade surpassing the Sith acolytes that Surik slaughtered being "elite". And then he goes on to best Desann.

Add in a couple of decades of power-growth, and prime!Kyle should be performing such a feat at his leisure. Just marking him at Jinn level is lowballing.

Originally posted by Deronn_solo
Maul simarly taking out Jinn with an injured leg on Tantooine is a showing that shares parity with Caedus showing.

LOL no. Caedus would've killed him far quicker, under more negative circumstances, and against a superior foe.

Here is the quote that states that Caedus was distracted, btw.
I could see, why you would doubt it, tho.

Caedus hadn't felt the blaster bolt coming. His concentration was slipping.

Originally posted by MythLord
Same thing could be said for HoT or Meetra, tbh. And the ones Katarn fought were listed as "matches for Jedi Masters" and were stated as being "high-level villains in any era".

Hmm? Where this?

It's in Threats of the Galaxy, if I remember correctly.

But it isn't referring to the Reborn, it's referring to Dark Jedi Masters, which Kyle also slaughtered.