The Future of the "new" Right Wing.

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The Future of the "new" Right Wing.

Now that the alt-right is the new right - just look at some of the people Trump is hiring around him (this is a good thing) and neocons are slowly being cast to the whiny kvetchlands, be prepared for the leftoid media to twist and misrepresent the nascent revolution’s nationalist-populism message, shoving it into an anti-White boilerplate narrative that the Left prefers and can more easily control. The media will attempt to deceitfully conflate White Nationalism with race purity to avoid grappling with sensible alt-right policy prescriptions that should return the US to 80+% White, which is a reasonable goal.

Racial purity is not the goal. (It’s a red herring; few are calling for it and those that are recognize true racial purity is practically impossible.) Demographic dominance assuring societal stability and cultural hegemony is the goal. Yes, cultural hegemony. Or how some would quaintly describe it: “a nation”. If the objective of a minimum 80% White USA is thwarted by liberals who think it's an evil premise, the subsequent White identity iteration will validate their fears.

Eh, I guess I'll indulge you:

Which culture do you want to make the hegemony? The culture of Trump's voter base - the uneducated white working class - is hardly the pinnacle of humanity. Our most impressive culture would lie in the well educated (formally or informally), scientifically literate "elite", who tend to be socially liberal and scorn Trump, his supporters, and his cabinet.

Indeed, if your desired demographic makeup is a product of wanting a population with a certain set of admirable qualities, why not select directly for those qualities instead of clumsily trying to employ ethnicity as a loose proxy? An Indian American physicist with forward thinking social values is a better example for the United States than some uneducated white trailer trash, with their race having no clear relevance independent of factors that you can measure directly anyway - that should be easy to see.

If you're worried about Trump, It's simple. We wait and see. If Trump manages to make America Great, lowers unemployment and poverty, culls illegal immigration and monitors Muslim refugees without unrest, wipes out ISIS, and does brings all the good he promised, then conservatives will be able to say "we were right"

If, although, the increasingly liberal progressive country,

(and it is; Trump got less votes than Romney, as 48% of the country chose not to vote period as they didn't view Hillary as a viable alternative; Trumps win was not a massive uprising of right wing nativist conservatism, but rather a massive rejection of Hillary's rather right wing neoliberalist corruption of the left wing Democratic party; it's not that people want the right, it's just that due to the DNC being corrupt to the core, there is no viable left party besides the extremist left Green party; people want progress, the point of liberalism, but Hillary used corporatist neoliberal corruption and SJWs (ex. Ghostbusters and Pepe) to turn liberalism into a hypocritical joke, similar to how she turned the concept of humanitarianism (which I worship as an ideology) into a joke by using the excuse of humanitarian intervention to depose human rights violating dictators but leaving even worse human rights violating warlords in place; quite simply, she was a *****, and did not deserve the presidency; however, now that Hillary lost the election, there is no point in criticising now, as she has lost her power seat forever)

decides to reject the conservative policies of the conservative government, shit could get bad. If peoples families start getting negatively affected by Trump's policies on a mass scale, then we could be looking at, as i stated on election day, an apocalyptic civil war. In which case, the increasingly small conservatives may undergo a French Revolution style coup leading our country to become a third world state in the chaos.

Conservatism by its it's very logic is doomed to fail because it wishes to conserve policies and ideologies of the past against the technological and social progress of the future, and change is a juggernaut that can not be stopped. You can either adapt to it or be crushed trying to rebel against it. As the world progresses technologically, it is slowly but surely beginning to embrace mundialist secular humanism over religion or nationalism.

I'm rather glad Bannon said what he did. It proves my point about alt-right conservatism. They are driven by base human nature (strong preys on the weak) rather than human spirit (strong protects the weak). A desire for power over the powerless rather than the empowerment of the powerless. This is well, the attempt to conserve human nature against the evolving human spirit. It is, well, rather Satanic thinking.

Hillary lost not because she was a liberal, but because she was a neoliberal, which is essentially a conservative who lies about it. Americans don't want conservatism in any form, but Hillary and the international Bilderberg Group have corrupted liberalism into a neoliberal capitalist system that is essentially identical to conservatism. People do not want conservative policies. They do not want the current status quo, which is what Hillary offered, or any previous status quo, which is what Trump is offering. They want progress, know we have the technological capacity, and they know that neoliberal/conservative greed and obsolete nationalist/religious/economic ideologies is what is obstructing that progress. As stated, Hillary's loss was the country's killing of neoliberalist capitalism, but something tells me conservatism isn't too far behind, and depending on how oppressive Trump's policies get, the death of conservatism won't be at the ballot, but rather in bloodshed.

You can't fight change with conservatism. Change is a juggernaut. If it's not adapted it to, it will crush you, and in the case of an oppressive Trump presidency, conservatism will be crushed by outright revolution. And that point, there won't be a Hillary Clinton to lynch. There will only be Trump, his administration....and all who voted for him.

Originally posted by Lestov16
If you're worried about Trump, It's simple. We wait and see. If Trump manages to make America Great, lowers unemployment and poverty, culls illegal immigration and monitors Muslim refugees without unrest, wipes out ISIS, and does brings all the good he promised, then conservatives will be able to say "we were right"

This would be awesome, especially because I know it would legitimately upset the left for Trump to succeed. At this point they want Trump to fail. This is why people were upset he settled the Trump U thing.

Democratic party; it's not that people want the right, it's just that due to the DNC being corrupt to the core

Exactly. This is what people consistently fail to get. They want to talk about how horrible our country looks because we elected a guy like Trump. Without really considering just how so very very bad things might be if people still went with Trump over Hilary.

Trump won states he should have never been able to win, like Wisconsin. Hilary thought she had Wisconsin in the bag so much that she didn't stop there once during the election.

I'm rather glad Bannon said what he did. It proves my point about alt-right conservatism. They are driven by base human nature (strong preys on the weak) rather than human spirit (strong protects the weak). A desire for power over the powerless rather than the empowerment of the powerless. This is well, the attempt to conserve human nature against the evolving human spirit. It is, well, rather Satanic thinking.

I truly believe that both sides are driven by those things though. I just think they each have different methods in how to best achieve those things.

Hillary lost not because she was a liberal, but because she was a neoliberal, which is essentially a conservative who lies about it.

This touches on another thing that bothered me. It seems people would like to blame everyone and everything for Hilary's loss..besides Hilary. I've seen white women blamed, I've seen whites in general blamed, I've seen Comey blamed, I've seen the DNC blamed. But the person who bears the brunt of the responsibility for this loss..tends to never get brought up.

Look at this article:

http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/10/politics/why-donald-trump-won/index.html

It's 24 theories as to why Trump won, and not a single one of them really put any blame specifically on Hilary. Also keep in mind on a list that is supposed to be about theories why Trump won..#12 on that list is "not millenials" lol.

I like how the OP calls a bunch of whiny angry white people (ie Alt-righties) who were told the world belongs to them by their puppet-masters a "nascent revolution" almost as much as his tears that the "liberals" will label it racism and then goes on to state how America needs to return to "80+% white".

I like that too.

Yeah the world is much better off when being run by a bunch of uneducated angry white lefties.

Liberalism is closer to the right than the left in the classical sense. As someone who was an early adopter of the alt-right it sucks that tards have co-opted it and the leftist media is only so happy to straw man the beliefs based on some methed up klansmen.

Here are the core beliefs of the Alt-right
Strong infrastructure and trade deals
Isolationist leanings
A focus on the nation over self.

Also Mike Rowe of "Dirty Jobs" fame debunked the "uneducated" narrative months ago. If anyone should be labelled as the candidate of the dumb, Hillary's largest voting block was college educated people who were in the lower income bracket.

Originally posted by Henry_Pym

Here are the core beliefs of the Alt-right
Strong infrastructure and trade deals
Isolationist leanings
A focus on the nation over self.

Welll 1 out of 3 aint too bad.

Just curious, but what is your issue with isolationism? It gets an unfair bad wrap but since we moved away from it and towards a globalist stance we have fought 6 wars.

Yes you can, lol. America was an isolationism utopia during the 1880's- to world war 2. It's part of the reason America never saw fighting on the home front after the civil war.

Originally posted by Henry_Pym
Also Mike Rowe of "Dirty Jobs" fame debunked the "uneducated" narrative months ago. If anyone should be labelled as the candidate of the dumb, Hillary's largest voting block was college educated people who were in the lower income bracket.

This is quite interesting, because all we hear about all the time is how smart Hilary voters are.

Isolationism has nothing to do with immigration, it's a political stance. We weren't in the "democracy building" mode that has plagued us since ww2. An Isolationist country still does trade, but you safeguards it's interests and not a globalist agenda.

I hear that a recent Alt-Right meeting ended with everyone doing the Nazi salute.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/21/us/alt-right-salutes-donald-trump.html?_r=0

I think it's time to cull the white population, starting with Ziggy.

Originally posted by Surtur
This would be awesome, especially because I know it would legitimately upset the left for Trump to succeed. At this point they want Trump to fail. This is why people were upset he settled the Trump U thing.
Because the "good" Trump has promised is in fact bad, yeah, I would like him to flop.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
Because the "good" Trump has promised is in fact bad, yeah, I would like him to flop.

Yeah..nope. Not what I was saying. I was saying even if he does good from the crazy liberal point of view..they will be pissed.

It is given the contexts of what you were responding to was the "good he [Trump] promised", but I get that in mashing your agenda into the keyboard its easy to miss these things. 🙂

And yet I just clarified for you what I meant so..do you have anything further to add or not?