Omni King Zeno runs a gauntlet
I know this isn't all anime characters but...whatever. All fights take place in a random pocket dimension. Full rest (if that's even necessary) in between fights
Warm-up: Lifebringer Galactus
1. IG Thanos
2. The Living Tribunal
3. God Emperor Doom
4. Full-powered Spectre
5. COIE Anti-Monitor
Boss: Michael Demiurgos
For shits and giggles: PR Beyonder.
I just realized something. Zeno said he was going to destroy "this world." When Whis referred to "this world," he was referring to all twelve universes, and I assume the other small dimensions like Otherworld and the Deamon realm, too. So, if we are to assume that Zeno didn't just destroy Universe 7 but all 12+ universes (which is likely, given Zamasu said he killed ALL the gods), then he probably gets to boss, if not clears.
Honestly, I don't know anything about God Emperor Doom. Excluding him though, I'd definitely give Zeno at least a good chance against Spectre and the Anti-monitor.
If you really think about it, Cosmic Zamasu basically did the same thing that the Anti-monitor did. I've read all of COIE's, and basically all the Anti-monitor did, iirc, was absorb the DC multiverse, expanding his own anti-matter universe with it.
Cosmic Zamasu literally became the entirety of universe 7, and expanded his consciousness all the way into the past, present and future of Trunk's entire timeline. He essentially merged his consciousness with the four dimensions of that universe, which is why even Beerus would have needed to resort to a sealing technique to defeat him.
Zeno-sama literally just destroyed the entirety of that timeline. The only things that survived from it were Trunks and Mai, which was because they were outside of their timeline at that point. This is also why they would still be alive in the new future that Whiss offered to take them to, meaning there would be two Mai's and Trunks' in that timeline- it was a completely different timeline within the same universe.
The anti-monitor did essentially the same thing, but the scale was different, in that he didn't affect the continuities of the multiverse.
If I'm remembering this wrong, go ahead and correct me.
Yeah though, Zeno stops hard at Michael Demiurgos. Who knows though, he may get the feats to beat him at some point. Wouldn't really surprise me that much, tbh.
Originally posted by SSJGGogeta
Honestly, I don't know anything about God Emperor Doom. Excluding him though, I'd definitely give Zeno at least a good chance against Spectre and the Anti-monitor.If you really think about it, Cosmic Zamasu basically did the same thing that the Anti-monitor did. I've read all of COIE's, and basically all the Anti-monitor did, iirc, was absorb the DC multiverse, expanding his own anti-matter universe with it.
Cosmic Zamasu literally became the entirety of universe 7, and expanded his consciousness all the way into the past, present and future of Trunk's entire timeline. He essentially merged his consciousness with the four dimensions of that universe, which is why even Beerus would have needed to resort to a sealing technique to defeat him.
Zeno-sama literally just destroyed the entirety of that timeline. The only things that survived from it were Trunks and Mai, which was because they were outside of their timeline at that point. This is also why they would still be alive in the new future that Whiss offered to take them to, meaning there would be two Mai's and Trunks' in that timeline- it was a completely different timeline within the same universe.
The anti-monitor did essentially the same thing, but the scale was different, in that he didn't affect the continuities of the multiverse.
If I'm remembering this wrong, go ahead and correct me.
Yeah though, Zeno stops hard at Michael Demiurgos. Who knows though, he may get the feats to beat him at some point. Wouldn't really surprise me that much, tbh.
1. God Emperor Doom was Doom drawing on the power of the nigh-omnipotent Molecule Man, who possessed the powers of the entire Beyonder Race, 3 of which killed all the Marvel Abstracts, including the Living Tribunal, (though the power level of the Beyonders is inconsistent, Owen is undoubtledly at PR-levels again). God Emperor Doom was essentially unchallenged, as he shitstomped the IG when he got serious, and nothing could really hurt him in any way.
2.COIE AM had the power of both the DC Multiverse and the Antimatter Multiverse. He was so powerful that a full powered/amped Spectre who was implied to be more powerful than The Presence wasn't his superior. Now while Spectr > Presence was definitely hyperbole, it tells you how much ridiculous power he was packing:
3. Cosmic Zamasu, while yeah, immensely powerful in his own right. Is less than microbial compared to the AM. The DB Multiverse he may or may not have permeated, (it was stated he became the universe, not the whole multiverse,) is infinitely smaller than the entire DC Multiverse.
4. AM's effect on DC was so profound that it caused an entire reboot: hence the use of terms such as Pre Crisis and Post Crisis. To put it in perspective, his power makes the IG insignificant by comparison.
5. I'm having a hard time believing he'd ever get a feat that'd put him above Michael, who possesses the literal demiurgic power of God.
Anyways, the extent of what Zeno destroyed is an instant is:
-12 universes, each with separate dimensions such as Heaven and Hell, along with the 13th universe that holds them all and is presumably vastly larger
-a Cosmic Zamasu who had become one with the universe, essentially turning into some sort of conceptual being, who was warping/affecting reality to the extent that the alternate present timeline was being altered/warped
-all of the angels like Whis/Vados/Daishinkan, the former 2 being infinitely above a casual universe buster, (Beerus,) and the latter being the strongest being in the multiverse sans Zeno.
As aforementioned, Zeno did this instantly and with no effort. I'll explain later why I think he can possibly get to 3.
Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
1. God Emperor Doom was Doom drawing on the power of the nigh-omnipotent Molecule Man, who possessed the powers of the entire Beyonder Race, 3 of which killed all the Marvel Abstracts, including the Living Tribunal, (though the power level of the Beyonders is inconsistent, Owen is undoubtledly at PR-levels again). God Emperor Doom was essentially unchallenged, as he shitstomped the IG when he got serious, and nothing could really hurt him in any way.2.COIE AM had the power of both the DC Multiverse and the Antimatter Multiverse. He was so powerful that a full powered/amped Spectre who was implied to be more powerful than The Presence wasn't his superior. Now while Spectr > Presence was definitely hyperbole, it tells you how much ridiculous power he was packing:
3. Cosmic Zamasu, while yeah, immensely powerful in his own right. Is less than microbial compared to the AM. The DB Multiverse he may or may not have permeated, (it was stated he became the universe, not the whole multiverse,) is infinitely smaller than the entire DC Multiverse.
4. AM's effect on DC was so profound that it caused an entire reboot: hence the use of terms such as Pre Crisis and Post Crisis. To put it in perspective, his power makes the IG insignificant by comparison.
5. I'm having a hard time believing he'd ever get a feat that'd put him above Michael, who possesses the literal demiurgic power of God.
1. Yeah, I realize how impressive those feats are. I simply don't know hardly anything about Doom, let alone God Emperor Doom. If he's truly PR Beyonder level though, he should effortlessly stomp anyone on this list, Zeno included.
2. I realize that we're only discussing COIE's AM here, but I didn't see his feats as that impressive. His most impressive feat tbh was overpowering the Spectre. Btw, the Spectre was not implied to be more powerful than the Presence. He is the manifestation of the Presence's wrath. He's powerful, but he's just a portion of the Presence.
3. The DBZ multiverse is just as massive as any other. The only difference is that there are a total of only 13 universes, yet there are also infinite timelines, and realities within said universes. Which is how Trunks and Mai were able to go back to a timeline similar to their own, to a point before Zamasu showed up, where they didn't have to fear for the Omni King destroying the entire universe later on.
4. That may be true, but you're severely exaggerating AM's scale here. He was able to effect all of the DC multiverse, but this was only by absorbing every universe, one at a time. The more he absorbed the more powerful he became. However, he was extremely unimpressive when actually faced with the Earth's forces in combat. His entire shell was destroyed, and he was knocked out, when Dr. Light caused the equivalent of an exploding star's worth of energy to explode from inside him. This was after she absorbed said stars worth of energy from AM, but that level of energy would be utterly less than insignificant to him, if he were truly as powerful as you're making him out to be.
He was extremely powerful, but this was only due to his armor absorbing the power of a multiverse. Even then, however, a single attack bypassing his armor was able to severely harm him, regardless of it being severely insignificant to his overall power. He is multiversal, sure. But he's a multiversal being that was unable to fight off three versions of Superman, and he has been defeated plenty of times since then, all by a cast of weaker-than-Superman characters.
5. Eh. Who knows? I'm curious to know what your opinion is on just how powerful Lucifer Morningstar is. I would compare him to someone like PR Beyonder, granted I don't know very much about either characters. Just curious about your thoughts, as you seem to know much more about both of them than I do.