Originally posted by SunRazerFilm is all that matters. We see it live. We have all the data we need. Yoda matched up. If Sidious was more powerful he wouldn't have made the oh **** face when Yoda engaged his fl. It isn't specific it's just a generalized comment. You really aren't a serious debater if you'd hang your hat on generalized and vague statements. 🙂
I said the novel doesn't depict it the same way as the film, lmfao.You've officially conceded.
Well, Gillard also ranks Palpatine over Yoda, but that aside, it's clear that McCallum is saying that Sidious is more powerful than any of the Jedi. There's no other interpretation, lol, unless you think he means that Palpatine is more powerful than the entire Jedi Order combined. 😂
Now I'll say it and actually mean it, concession accepted.
Originally posted by TrocityNo, his quite was vague and didn't address anything. The fact is Yoda took Palpatine's best and showed he's his equal in terms of power. The fact you think he owned me shows me how off you are as well. 😉
Nova destroyed quan worse than Palpatine did Maul.
Maul is still alive, kiddo.
There's no generalized and vague statements. My quotes are direct as they can possibly be - the fact that you continue to try and dismiss them as "generalized and vague" proves only that you have the intellectual capacity of a neanderthal.
As I said, your responses entail an instant concession for this and all past, present and future debates. And I've accepted that. Move on. Nobody wants to see your white feather.
Originally posted by juggernaut74
While I'm not agreeing that film is all that matters, but the film did clearly show Yoda as being as powerful if not more powerful than Sidious. Yoda just ran out of time.
Yoda certainly seemed better in swordsmanship but then again the terrain favoured Yoda as Sidious couldn't maneuver properly in the small Chancellor podium space.
They seem about even in Force abilities with the edge going to Sidious; he was throwing those pods around like Sunday baseball and Yoda did fly farther than Sidious when the were blasted apart at the end of the fight.
I'd say put em on even ground and the fight goes in Sidious' favour a lot more decisively.
Originally posted by relentless1
Yoda certainly seemed better in swordsmanship but then again the terrain favoured Yoda as Sidious couldn't maneuver properly in the small Chancellor podium space.They seem about even in Force abilities with the edge going to Sidious; he was throwing those pods around like Sunday baseball and Yoda did fly farther than Sidious when the were blasted apart at the end of the fight.
I'd say put em on even ground and the fight goes in Sidious' favour a lot more decisively.
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Gillard practically confirms that Sidious is better than Yoda as a swordsman, and that's supported by the new SW website quote which claims that Palpatine could best even the greatest Jedi warrior in lightsaber combat. Lucas also seems to suggest that Yoda can't actually beat Sidious in dueling, just compete with him. And just as a bonus, Filoni puts Sidious above all characters in TCW, including Yoda.
Originally posted by relentless1
Yoda certainly seemed better in swordsmanship but then again the terrain favoured Yoda as Sidious couldn't maneuver properly in the small Chancellor podium space.
Sidious CHOSE to move the fight to that podium. They were fighting on even ground before then so that's not an excuse.
Originally posted by relentless1They seem about even in Force abilities with the edge going to Sidious; he was throwing those pods around like Sunday baseball and Yoda did fly farther than Sidious when the were blasted apart at the end of the fight.
Because Palpatine didn't have his Saber anymore so was unleashing the full might of his Force powers on Yoda who was just trying to get to Palpatine and slice him up with his Saber.
Also Palpatine had gravity on his side when throwing those pods. Yoda stopped to catch one and throw it against gravity, and Palpatine seemingly couldn't stop that one.
Originally posted by relentless1I'd say put em on even ground and the fight goes in Sidious' favour a lot more decisively.
Clearly not because the fight DID begin on even ground, which Yoda was comfortable continuing there, but Palpatine was not.
The film portrayed them as relative equals. There's just no getting around that.
Originally posted by SunRazer
👆Gillard practically confirms that Sidious is better than Yoda as a swordsman, and that's supported by the new SW website quote which claims that Palpatine could best even the greatest Jedi warrior in lightsaber combat. Lucas also seems to suggest that Yoda can't actually beat Sidious in dueling, just compete with him. And just as a bonus, Filoni puts Sidious above all characters in TCW, including Yoda.
The script (by Lucas) has Yoda winning the Saber duel, and it doesn't contradict the film one bit. Whereas all these statements claiming Palpatine was pushing Yoda's shit in do contradict the film.
Originally posted by SunRazerYou're biased and live for quotes I get it. You also want to ignore what words mean like specific and vague. You also want to ignore the film on panel comparison between the two in terms of power.
There's no generalized and vague statements. My quotes are direct as they can possibly be - the fact that you continue to try and dismiss them as "generalized and vague" proves only that you have the intellectual capacity of a neanderthal.As I said, your responses entail an instant concession for this and all past, present and future debates. And I've accepted that. Move on. Nobody wants to see your white feather.
You aren't bright and on another occasion have said Sidious was stupid in the moment. You want other quotes to be the end all be all which is really the most lemming thing I'd ever hear anyone say on the internet. You're done here just walk away with whatever pride you have left at this point. Film and specificity over a generalized quote. Evidence matters.