Jill Stein Calls for Recounts in 3 States

Originally posted by Surtur
I'm not really the one saying it can't be rigged. I'm saying experts say it's not fraud, but demographics. I'm saying that before the election the democrats swore up and down it couldn't be done.

But like I said, if they truly did find evidence of any kind of hacking or machine malfunctions in these states..wouldn't it be right to then recount every state with those types of voting machines? Especially if it's a malfunction.

And if voting fraud was found on certain machines then they should check all of those machines.

Lol so Stein filed for the recount.

I mean hey okay if there was indeed any foul play, as much as it would suck, it needs to be exposed. But I just think people are going to get their hopes up and be disappointed. You'd think this kind of thing would send Trump on a twitter tirade, but even he doesn't seem to give a shit.

I'm amused because the reason I see some on the left using is that we need to do this just to give people more faith in the system, and that it's something that should be done all the time and so obviously the best time is to start now. So I just wonder if now in the future in elections they will still call for recounts even if a democrat wins? Even though before they said we should already have faith in this system.

The people in Wisconsin who would do the recount have already kinda said it's not going to be easy to finish by the time the deadline is up. When I say they are doing the recount I mean organizing it, since not just one group will be involved.

BTW, Trump won Michigan. Which I'm also hearing used paper ballots. So there is nothing to hack, and Hilary would have needed all 3 of these states I think to win, correct?

He won it by like 10,000.

Yep Michigan seems to have no electronic voting machines.

Seems like that would be that, then. They could call for a recount, but as I said..no electronic voting machines so they'd be doing it by hand I guess they are saying lol.

Though if Stein isn't doing this for Clinton, why isn't she calling for recounts in all states with narrow victories? Including the Clinton ones?

Now I'm seeing reports that Jill Stein raised more in the last few days for a recount..than she did during the months and months of the election. Wait, what? And she's only calling for recounts in states where Trump won a narrow victory, not just any state with a narrow victory.

Something about this feels off. Her entire thing has been about hacking, but then if true why would she want a recount in Michigan?

Clinton camp is backing her play now.

Was there any chance she wouldn't?

Why do I feel like a "fix" is upcoming...?

hmm

Well the Clinton's kinda have to back it now once Stein did what she did. But they have come out and said they thoroughly studied the results for the past few weeks(like I figured they would) and found no evidence of wrong doing.

So I don't know if the fix is in..but so far it seems like Jill Stein just made a blunder. They have said they don't think it will do anything, but you can't really have some Green party person running this recount.

She forced their involvement, or so it seems. I am still suspicious though since Michigan had zero electronic voting. Why want it there? Is the story they miscounted over 10,000 votes?

http://new.time.com/4561508/jill-stein-green-party-election-day/

Nov 07, 2016

Time.Com. Tessa Berenson.

Jill Stein is already looking past tomorrow's election.

The Green Party candidate, who has a polling average of about 2% heading into Election Day, chuckled at the prospect of an outright win Tuesday. She said she's hoping for 5% in election returns, and beyond that, she's planning to push for reforms in the presidential debate commission and to help pave the way for future third party candidates with a rank choice voting initiative.

Do you think the Green Party should allocate more resources to down ballot races in the future as opposed to presidential runs?

Races have to fund themselves, and what the presidential race does is help bring attention to the fact that we have down-ballot candidates. So running at the national level, in fact we are required to do that in order to get ballot status for our down ballot races. We don’t have a choice about this. But in addition, running at the national level does some very important things... We need to challenge these candidates. We have to stand up and hold their feet to the fire at the national level.

http://www.ncsl.org/documents/legismgt/elect/Canvass_Feb_2012_No_27.pdf

For Democratic and Republican candidates it is generally fairly straightforward to get on a ballot. In most states any party that receives a specified percentage of the vote in an election is automatically granted a spot on the next ballot.

But if you are an independent candidate or from a minor party, ballot access‖ is a whole different and more difficult kettle of fish.

(At state level
0.01 of a percent point of the vote count in a presidential election can make a big difference for a Minor Party)

https://www.michigan.gov/documents/sos/2016_Ballot_Access_Information_for_Presidential_Candidates_487894_7.pdf

In Michigan If they hit the percent point in the vote count. That means The GP doesn't have to start all over again in Michigan. Ie: Re Registering as a new political party. All the work they did to get the signatures for this election instantly qualifies the party to automatic ballot entry on elections in michigan state from now till 2020.

If you're GP. This means you don't have to do every thing, all over again, from scratch.

Thats why they're doing it.

Al Pacino. Any Given Sunday. Inches.

So is your point that they are doing this just to get more points. Because that is shady as f*ck.

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GPA Publicly Declared KPIs in this election were:

(i) To win automatic ballot access in every state (5%)

(ii) To retain ballot access in the states they held from the last election and to win more ballots (21<😉(1 to 5%)

The Green Party have been honest and clear in their communication. Before the campaign. During the campagin. Post election.

Very likely that Jill Stein is just doing this for publicity, kinda clever in that respect, but hopefully people realize that it's extremely unlikely that anything comes of this. Anyone getting their hopes up that this will change anything is probably going to be sorely disappointed. Then again, this is 2016, the year when the least likely outcome keeps happening.

Originally posted by BackFire
Very likely that Jill Stein is just doing this for publicity, kinda clever in that respect, but hopefully people realize that it's extremely unlikely that anything comes of this. Anyone getting their hopes up that this will change anything is probably going to be sorely disappointed. Then again, this is 2016, the year when the least likely outcome keeps happening.

There's unlikely, and there's not gonna happen. Even Hillary knows it, or she'd have paid for this herself instead of bandwagoning on the Green train (Probably just a ploy to keep them from owning the spotlight. Yes, I believe she'd be that petty.)

waste of time and money, but then again, US government wasted money even worse before

It's just some scam for her.

Originally posted by BackFire
Very likely that Jill Stein is just doing this for publicity, kinda clever in that respect, but hopefully people realize that it's extremely unlikely that anything comes of this. Anyone getting their hopes up that this will change anything is probably going to be sorely disappointed. Then again, this is 2016, the year when the least likely outcome keeps happening.

Well you'd think the people dumb enough to give money are getting their hopes up.

I mean a reason for recounting Michigan hasn't been given, as it has no electronic voting.

Originally posted by Surtur
It's just some scam for her.

Here:

http://www.wikihow.com/Call-911

https://www.stopfraud.gov/report.html

https://tips.fbi.gov/

https://www.fbi.gov/contact-us/field-offices