This is incontrovertible proof that God is evil. God does not live by his own golden

Originally posted by John Murdoch
http://mbbc.us/resource/bibleanswers.pdf

Check out the "Church" section.

What do you mean by Predestines?

I misspelled the word Protestant. Sorry about the confusion. Please re-read what I said with the word Protestant instead Predestines.

Prot·es·tant
ˈprädəstənt/
noun
noun: Protestant; plural noun: Protestants
1.
a member or follower of any of the Western Christian churches that are separate from the Roman Catholic Church and follow the principles of the Reformation, including the Baptist, Presbyterian, and Lutheran churches.
adjective
adjective: Protestant
1.
of, relating to, or belonging to any of the Protestant churches.

Ah, gotcha. No problem man. Well, we start at Jesus' church founded at Jerusalem:

- persecution occurs in Jerusalem (Acts 8:1)
- the church is founded at Antioch (Acts 11:19-26)
- more churches are founded (the epistles were written to them, and Revelation chapters 1-3, specifically chapter 1, verses 11-13)
- however, the Catholic Church either never was a true church or had its candlestick removed when it perverted The Gospel.

This is an excerpt from the above resource I mentioned from mbbc.us:

"Though proper lineage is difficult to prove because of church persecution and destruction of records, it
is possible to eliminate most churches based on improper lineage. For example, when the Catholic church corrupted
the doctrine of the Gospel it died and all Protestant churches that subsequently descended from her are without
authority: Lutheran, Dutch Reform, Methodist, Presbyterian, etc."

My argument is that from Jesus' church at Jerusalem through today there have always been churches that Jesus, The Head of the church/body, would have his approval upon (the candlestick). A book I recommend is A History of Churches: The Survival of New Testament Christianity Against Overwhelming Odds by Pastor Lester Hutson.

I know that there are, most likely, more Christian denominations these days than superhero movies, but

- the church existed before Catholicism
- either from the get-go or at some point in its history, the Catholic Church lost its candlestick due to corruption of The Gospel, and any Protestant church that came from it can't be a true church
- churches were attacked by the Catholic Church/papacy throughout history for simply following The Bible. Whether these groups were called Baptists or not, I'd have to do some research on.

Originally posted by John Murdoch
Ah, gotcha. No problem man. Well, we start at Jesus' church founded at Jerusalem:
- persecution occurs in Jerusalem (Acts 8:1)
- the church is founded at Antioch (Acts 11:19-26)
- more churches are founded (the epistles were written to them, and Revelation chapters 1-3, specifically chapter 1, verses 11-13)
- however, the Catholic Church either never was a true church or had its candlestick removed when it perverted The Gospel.

Originally posted by John Murdoch
My argument is that from Jesus' church at Jerusalem through today there have always been churches that Jesus, The Head of the church/body, would have his approval upon (the candlestick). A book I recommend is A History of Churches: The Survival of New Testament Christianity Against Overwhelming Odds by Pastor Lester Hutson.

Originally posted by Surtur
Wait just to be clear, do you think the bible actually happened?

Yes

Like all of it? Old Testament stuff too?

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
Like all of it? Old Testament stuff too?

If so..there is an upside. There is this one passage where this guy gets attacked by some kids and then he has some motherf*cking bears murder them and shit.

If this happened it means bear control is possible. Today has been a great victory for science.

Originally posted by Surtur
If so..there is an upside. There is this one passage where this guy gets attacked by some kids and then he has some motherf*cking bears murder them and shit.

If this happened it means bear control is possible. Today has been a great victory for science.

Just imagine an atomic bomb, but instead of energy it explodes with..f*cking bears. Polar bears, grizzly bears, the bald headed bear from that John Candy movie. All bears.

YouTube video

Oh shit..oh shit..just had a million dollar idea. Bearnado.

No wait, Bearnami. Bearricane. Someone needs to take a time machine back into the past and make these films so they are ready right now.

Maybe someone already tried to but went too far. And it was Terminator time travel so it was one way. So they just made the best of it and made some bears maul children until it got worked into the Old Testament.

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
Like all of it? Old Testament stuff too?

Yes

Originally posted by nfactor1995
Yes

But it actually didn't happen. The bible says the Earth was created in a very short time span. That is just the tip of the iceberg. It would also mean God is a murderer.

Let me ask you this: you believe everything in the bible is true. But do you follow everything in the bible? For example if the bible says a certain thing is good you find it good,and if it says a certain thing is bad you find that thing bad?

Originally posted by nfactor1995
Yes

Or the part where God killed 14,700 people because they complained that God kept killing people?

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
Or the part where God killed 14,700 people because they complained that God kept killing people?

This is totally not something a psychopath would do.

Originally posted by Surtur
This is totally not something a psychopath would do.

God especially loved the guy who, when a mob formed outside his house and demanded they turn over his houseguest so that they can rape him, he offered up his concubine to them instead. And after a night of being brutally raped she collapsed on her master's doorstep. In the morning he took her away on his donkey and dismembered her into 12 parts, sending a piece each to all corners of Israel.

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
God... loves? all his children.

God especially loved the guy who, when a mob formed outside his house and demanded they turn over his houseguest so that they can rape him, he offered up his concubine to them instead. And after a night of being brutally raped she collapsed on her master's doorstep. In the morning he took her away on his donkey and dismembered her into 12 parts, sending a piece each to all corners of Israel.

Well the lord works in mysterious ways. He's above us so somehow this passage isn't horrifying at all.

Originally posted by Surtur
Well the lord works in mysterious ways. He's above us so somehow this passage isn't horrifying at all.

I would be especially proud of my Old Testament God if, should I die, and my brother marries my widow, the Lord kills my brother for not getting my widow pregnant.

What a great and wonderful God.

Originally posted by Greatest I am
This is incontrovertible proof that God is evil. God does not live by his own golden rule.

God kills when he could just as easily cure. This is irrefutable.

This is a clear violation of the golden rule. The golden rule as articulated by Jesus.

Jesus was preaching to a crowd of people. Using your hyper-literary logic, the golden rule only applied that particular crowd of people and nobody else. 😂

What's also articulated by Jesus and scripture is that God is the sole and divine judge over humanity.

https://www.lds.org/scriptures/tg/jesus-christ-judge?lang=eng

Therefore, God clearly has a role different than human beings and thus Jesus was referring to God's divine judgment/authority when he was discussing the golden rule.

To put it another way, kidnapping people is illegal in the United States. Kidnapping is defined as confining someone against their will in a place they do not wish to be in. The United States regularly confines people against their will in places they do not wish to be in by sending them to jail. Therefore, if we are to follow your reasoning, the United States is breaking the law for putting people in jail and should be punished.

Do you agree with Jesus that anyone who breaks the golden rule is evil?