Originally posted by UCanShootMyNovaHe did though.
He did. A single concentrated blast completely shredded Revan's defenses and incapacitated him. Revan had no disadvantage.Revan's in turn only pushed Vitiate back.
Both sides of the force, one is amped, one is hindered.
Therefore, balanced, or imbalanced. It depends on how you look at it.
Yeah, and Revan tossed him like a ***** across the room. Vitiate tried to fry him, but caught a lightning bolt to the chest.
On a LS Nexus, Vitiate won't be able to conjure up as much powerful lightning.
Then Galen has near parity with Sidious now? And what does it say that Galen did this for a longer period then Revan managed to against Vitiate?
I mean we could try to apply the factors in these comparison to see exactly how they stack up.
Or we could realize that even Vader who'd been previously dominated by Galen was able to defend against a concentrated blast from him while he was likely amped by Oneness without any further visible damage.
Kind of gives you some perspective on how defending against a Force attack doesn't necessitate an equivalent power level.
Regardless if you want to go by that flawed logic I only ask that you apply it to all characters and not just the one's you favor.
Except you didn't... You never responded to the last post in that thread.
I asked you how the lightning Sidious and Galen generated made it through Sidious's own Force defenses if Sidious was holding back. I pointed out that that would either necessitate Galen's power being enough to bridge the gap between lightning he himself was able to defend against ( your proposed scaled back version of Sidious's lightning ) to the point that it was enough to pierce Sidious's force defenses or that it would mean Sidious was using lightning powerful enough to pierce his own defenses in the first place which Galen would have been diminishing to non lethal levels previously.
As I said, you neglected to post a response.
And yet neither died.
Galen certainly has no reason to spare Sidious and his lightning has already been established to reach far beyond lethal levels so even if you stick to the idea that Sidious was holding back even then the outcome doesn't make any sense unless you take into account Force defenses. I certainly don't need to remind you that Galen entered the Death Star without the hope of survival given his visions, his dialogue with Juno prior and his monologue about his willingness to sacrifice himself as he's engaging with Palpatine.
Not to mention when Galen enacted his final Oneness blast he was still holding onto Palpatine. It's impossible that Palpatine would have survived such an attack with base human durability.
Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
And yet neither died.Galen certainly has no reason to spare Sidious and his lightning has already been established to reach far beyond lethal levels so even if you stick to the idea that Sidious was holding back even then the outcome doesn't make any sense unless you take into account Force defenses.
Not to mention when Galen enacted his final Oneness blast he was still holding onto Palpatine. It's impossible that Palpatine would have survived such an attack with base human durability.
I don't even know what you're getting at here. Palpatine wasn't using his lightning at full power, and thus they weren't at "far beyond lethal levels."
What version are you citing here? I'll address your point accordingly.
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Which emphasizes how weak Palpatine's lightning was.I don't even know what you're getting at here. Palpatine wasn't using his lightning at full power, and thus they weren't at "far beyond lethal levels."
What version are you citing here? I'll address your point accordingly.
Refer to the following point.
But Galen was.
Pick any version. The damage the Emperor's tower sustained in any of them would obliterate a normal human.
Hm?
Hm?
In the video-game, Galen Marek never latches onto Palpatine. However, he jumped in front of Palpatine's lightning when he was torturing Rahm Kota, who he did not kill instantly, so there's no indication Palpatine ramped up his lightning. Since he wasn't latching onto Palpatine, Palpatine could throw up a Force barrier to defend himself against the explosion. In the novelization, it remarks that Galen Marek dropped his defenses (i.e. holding onto Palpatine), thus allowing Palpatine to also summon a Force barrier to protect himself from the Galen Marek explosion.