Originally posted by RealityWarper
Sentry has wiped the mind of everyone on Earth and Moon, including Uatu the Watcher, on a whim.Onslaught has no telepathic feats at this level.
Originally posted by zopzop
Wait, I remember something about this but not the exact details. Is this true? If so, Onslaught gets destroyed. Because going by on panel feats, this trumps anything Onslaught did.
I'm not so sure...
The creation of a star is far greater in scale than this...
Inaddition, battle against Peak Power Onslaught was completely impossible without prepping against extreme psionic attack...
Sentry could be fought in the conventional sense; Onslaught could not...
Originally posted by quanchi112
Creation of a star isn't that impressive battle wise. LoM has no clue on how to debate based off combat related relevancy. He just makes threads he believes his guy stomps and slithers away when people decimate his ignorance.
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Onslaught created that star on a whim, so theres no reason for him to not do something equally impressive with there being no plot or PIS to stop him in a forum setting...
Of course a small mind like yours cant grasp at the enormity of creating a star on a whim...
Eh...you back to blowing Thanos and leave the debate to the real men quanchi.
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Originally posted by TheLordofMurderSo what ? That doesn't even compare to Hulks best, Thors best, etc.
👇Onslaught created that star on a whim, so theres no reason for him to not do something equally impressive with there being no plot or PIS to stop him in a forum setting...
Of course a small mind like yours cant grasp at the enormity of creating a [b]star
on a whim...Eh...you back to blowing Thanos and leave the debate to the real men quanchi.
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It has no relevance for a battle.
Void can reform and he overpowered MM at his own game., combat related. He crushes Onslaught.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Onslaugt doesn't have the power to do so. Void kills him effortlessly. He gets the MM treatment. You need to actually debate to be taken seriously.
Onslaught has the power mind rape Void/Sentry into oblivion and win...
Void does not kill Onslaught effortlessly as Onslaught cant be killed in any conventional sense...
There is no proof that what worked on Owen will work here...
Afterall, matter/energy cannot be created or destroyed; it can only change shape...
The true form of Peak Power Onslaught is pure psionic energy which cannot be destroyed, thus Peak Power Onslaught cannot be destroyed...
Onslaught wins...
Originally posted by zopzop
Quan do you have a scan of the Sentry/Void planet and moon mindwipe thing? If not is REalityWarpers statement accurate? Did he really alter Uatu's memory?
I would ignore people saying it was "taken out of context".
Here's the scans that are relevant to the moon related feat.
Note: The first image is to show the battle Medusa is talking about. Nothing is strictly mentioned about Uatu by the way.
Then this that makes it even more clearer.
Note it says "everyone in existence". But I don't like getting too excited about that phrase. Could it really mean everyone? Who knows...
The first occasion. A device powered by his serum.
The transmitter is then increased 3 times.
But if we remember every other serum created afterwards was actually made to try and kill the Sentry. They were all duds. So that's another point. Sentry did it when pushed into doing it by Mastermind and in Sentry Vol 1 and Sentry vs Void #1.
Originally posted by TheLordofMurderThis one above statement throws mud on your statement that Sentry is the most powerful character in all of Marvel...
It doesn't.
It is doubtful that Sentry makes himself extremely durable when his wife is around.
After all she ask him to take the Sentry-form when she want to shag.
Btw, you do know that Owen wanted to lose dont you?
He didn't want to lose only a lack of reading skills can lead you to that conclusion.
Owen was in control of the situation, he killed Sentry 3 times without playing around and he couldn't plan that Sentry was more powerful than him.
If you didnt kow this, you might want to go back and reread the dialog between Owen and the other apsects of himself that he was having a conversation with during that arc (Mephisto and the others)...
I know all of Sentry's showings like the back of my hand.
Owen clearly answer that he was just protecting his home.
The beings he created are just here to show us his inner fears and interrogations.
Owen created several beings expressing his psychosis.
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You can’t tell the difference between what’s real and what’s not. Also, your speech might be unclear and your behavior disorganized.
You may have depression, anxiety, and sleep problems, too. It could be a struggle just to get through your day.
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This psychosis made Owen paranoid and avoiding others. He had the delusion that Reed Richards would come after him and found him.
I've already posted 6 scans that proves that Owen wanted to be left alone because of this.
The beings he created are just his fears.
Owen didn't want to lose, his mind was just trapping him and he feared to fail.
As for Owens power level, if he was intentionally limiting himself, it doesnt really matter if he was depowered or not as the end result is the exact same
You are making-up stuff again.
Owen clearly doesn't have the attitude of someone whom want to lose.
He managed to destroy every threats without problems.
He was toying with the Avengers effortlessly.
he was not using his power on a level anywhere near what he had in the past...
The massive collateral wasn't a proof of power but a proof of his lack of fine control.
Owen's skills upgraded since his last encounter with the Beyonder and all he needs is to directly manipulate the molecules of his opponent to win... Which he couldn't do anymore because Sentry is far more powerful than him.
So yeah, Sentry beat a gimped, unstable, Owen...period.
One more time:
Being unstable doesn't affect Owen's powers.
Owen was even more aggressive than when he was changing into the bald Molecule Man...
The only thing that can depower Owen are his beliefs on his abilities.
That's literally confirmed by an Agent of Shield:
"The Molecule Man can reshape all forms of matter and energy, only limited by his belief in his abilities."
and confirmed a second time by QUASIMODO in the Dark Reign Files:
"Molecular control over all matter only limited by his own mental inhibitions."
Your fan-theory crumbles. Nobody cares about Molecule Man mental stability.
Molecule Man's abilities are only limited by his belief in them. Period.
As for Onslaught not using psionic power on the same level that Sentry did, you are dead wrong...
Creating a Sun is a planetary-level showing...
At best that put Onslaught at Skyfather-level...
Everything Onslaught did was based on psionics; even the Reality Warping (Franklins power on full display)...
Yeah and ?
Sentry's abilities are psionic in nature.
The effortless creation of a second Sun blows Sentry's mind wiping feat away and its not even close...
Rofl.
There is no correlation between the two comparisons.
Moving on.
Once again, Onslaught wins this via Mind Rape...
What is Onslaught best telepathic feat already ?
Sentry mindwiped everyone on Earth and Moon, including Uatu whom is a Celestial-level being, a thing that even Psi-Lord aka adult Franklin Richards, was incapable to do.
Nobody entered into Sentry's mind without his consent.
Void/Sentry is not unbeatable
And who can beat him exactly ?
and Onslaught has all the tools needed to beat him...
Onslaught is a weakling.
You proved nothing.
Originally posted by One_Angry_ScotNote it says "everyone in existence". But I don't like getting too excited about that phrase. Could it really mean everyone? Who knows...
This is confirmed by Tony Stark in Civil War Files:
Stark said that Sentry can alter the memories of the humanity on a whim.
This is confirmed by Iron Man a second time in Civil War Battle Damage Report:
"Sentry's enemies tapped his psionic potential and erased, not only his memories of both Sentry and Void, but those of the entire world."
Also this:
HE HAS THE POTENTIAL FOR UNLIMITED PSIONIC ABILITY."
Bendis was just preparing everyone to know that Sentry is a beast and that he can beat cosmic beings like Molecule Man.
Originally posted by RealityWarper
This is confirmed by Tony Stark in Civil War Files:
By everyone I was just joking/speculating how far beyond Earth they meant.I knew it was the Earth and the Moon. Was thinking it'd be amusing if they go to some planet on the edge of the Omniverse and their memory was wiped as well**
**And that is just me randomly joking.
Originally posted by One_Angry_Scot
By everyone I was just joking/speculating how far beyond Earth they meant.I knew it was the Earth and the Moon. Was thinking it'd be amusing if they go to some planet on the edge of the Omniverse and their memory was wiped as well****And that is just me randomly joking.
I know about this but this have not to be excluded.
Galactus had one guy from Earth whom fought him to a standstill and he never mention it ? Come on.
