Originally posted by hutchy1345
Why are Cavs on comicvine for sentry placing him against people like hyperion and silver surfer if he's a multiversal entity of destruction?Surely it would be a stomp
Because all people have different opinions. You see people on comicvine overrate Superman sometimes.
Just like people overrate Silver Surfer on CBR.
Originally posted by One_Angry_Scot
Because all people have different opinions. You see people on comicvine overrate Superman sometimes.Just like people overrate Silver Surfer on CBR.
Well those are some massively contrasting opinions lol there must be something wrong!
Seeing as your profile is sentry photos, I'm willing to assume some bias is coming into play...
But hey whatever.
Originally posted by hutchy1345
Well those are some massively contrasting opinions lol there must be something wrong!Seeing as your profile is sentry photos, I'm willing to assume some bias is coming into play...
But hey whatever.
Biased? Just because I am a Sentry fan doesn't make me biased. Ask anyone here and they will tell you the complete opposite. I could have made a sig of Negan and then you wouldn't have ever said what you said there.
On the topic of comicvine check this out.
http://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/battles-7/hulk-vs-toaamarvel-409100/
****ing hilarious.
Originally posted by One_Angry_Scot
Biased? Just because I am a Sentry fan doesn't make me biased. Ask anyone here and they will tell you the complete opposite. I could have made a sig of Negan and then you wouldn't have ever said what you said there.On the topic of comicvine check this out.
http://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/battles-7/hulk-vs-toaamarvel-409100/
****ing hilarious.
Typical coming from comicvine.
You can see Silver Surfer going against complete teams of Superman-level characters despite he is regularly struggling (and even losing) to Thor.
That's cringe worthy.
Originally posted by One_Angry_Scotno it couldn't be used at all against me, Thanos has shown to be different in his powers for a period of time in interlinking stories.
It doesn't matter if he ignores others continuity. Even if he didn't give a shit about anyone else but he loved the Sentry. Doesn't make him wrong.And it makes no difference if it was added later. It was reasonable to assume that beforehand and that was a confirmation.
You was the one saying a thread that since Thanos is dying that is why he was so weak in Secret Wars. But the same argument you use. "The other stuff was added later" could be used against you.
I'm picking the best explanation. Not necessarily the right one (if it is wrong that is) but it's the most reasonable one.
Right I see thanks for clarifying. Difference is that Sentry's powers can be shared. To either Bob's level, 50% level 29.5% level. I should add Normie got Bob's powers but I recall it being mentioned as a portion. I should've clarified when I said "Sentry's powers". That was my fault.
I have no problem with your explanation. But I the dog isn't nothing like Sentry in power.
Originally posted by Insane TitanFeats and statements count. You don't get to decide what does and doesn't count.
yeah I have read it. Bend is words mean shit read the rules. The Void had them and did nothing more than hold them. Voids durability caved in.Feats count not statements.
Phyla Vell was the avatar of death the same as Thanos and she was weak as piss.
Originally posted by Insane TitanWhen it comes to their own work it absolutely counts. What doesn't count is a writer's opinion outside their own canon work.
shut you double standard moron. Statements from writers don't count.😂 you keep backing RW, the guy who keeps saying Thanos is weak and nothing to Sentry. You're the big Thanos guy eh!
I believe Thanos beats the Sentry but I also believe you're picking and choosing what counts and doesn't due to personal bias. The writers churn out the stories and you're saying their opinion on their own work doesn't matter. Absurd.
Originally posted by Insane Titan
no it couldn't be used at all against me, Thanos has shown to be different in his powers for a period of time in interlinking stories.I have no problem with your explanation. But I the dog isn't nothing like Sentry in power.
It could. Because it's the same situation. I'm not saying you are necessarily wrong since that isn't the topic (though I am skeptical). But they are the same situations.
Sentry "died" and Thor took him into the Sun. We then find out later that he was alive all the time buit just holding off the Void. Which given Sentry's capabilities is a reasonable assumption to be made even a couple of months after SIEGE. Considering he exists as a "soul".
Thanos was in Secret Wars etc. We suddenly find out he was dying. Which you then used to explain Secret Wars. Which isn't technically factually based.
Originally posted by Insane Titan
Thanos has shown to be different in his powers for a period of time in interlinking stories.
Does that sound like a perfect description of Sentry to you? Certainly does to me. So again the point can be made against you.
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The Watchdog conversation is probably quite pointless really. Not really possible for either of us to write a dissertation about it.
Originally posted by One_Angry_ScotI see what you're getting at but to me it's not the same , as the bits Bendis added were not shown on panel, The instance for Thanos are shown on panel in a story setting.
It could. Because it's the same situation. I'm not saying you are necessarily wrong since that isn't the topic (though I am skeptical). But they are the same situations.Sentry "died" and Thor took him into the Sun. We then find out later that he was alive all the time buit just holding off the Void. Which given Sentry's capabilities is a reasonable assumption to be made even a couple of months after SIEGE. Considering he exists as a "soul".
Thanos was in Secret Wars etc. We suddenly find out he was dying. Which you then used to explain Secret Wars. Which isn't technically factually based.
Does that sound like a perfect description of Sentry to you? Certainly does to me. So again the point can be made against you.
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The Watchdog conversation is probably quite pointless really. Not really possible for either of us to write a dissertation about it.
Wrong, I never used secret wars as proof. I said his showings against the ultimates(after secret wars onwards) could be a result of said dying.
I'm not talking about power/sets, again was talking about Thanos durability/what he can with stand.
Originally posted by quanchi112nothing counts unless it's shown on panel.
When it comes to their own work it absolutely counts. What doesn't count is a writer's opinion outside their own canon work.I believe Thanos beats the Sentry but I also believe you're picking and choosing what counts and doesn't due to personal bias. The writers churn out the stories and you're saying their opinion on their own work doesn't matter. Absurd.
Haha you're saying what Bendis says is now legit, he contradicts himself in his stories all the times.
Originally posted by Insane TitanWrong. Basically you are saying any interpretation on what is shown counts but the not the guy who wrote it. His words are law pertaining to his own work.
nothing counts unless it's shown on panel.Haha you're saying what Bendis says is now legit, he contradicts himself in his stories all the times.
False, you are wrong. Quit thinking about specific writers and focus on the greater truth. The writer matters per his own work otherwise dummies are free to misinterpret and troll all day long. I do not like people who troll.
Originally posted by Insane Titan
I see what you're getting at but to me it's not the same , as the bits Bendis added were not shown on panel, The instance for Thanos are shown on panel in a story setting.Wrong, I never used secret wars as proof. I said his showings against the ultimates(after secret wars onwards) could be a result of said dying.
I'm not talking about power/sets, again was talking about Thanos durability/what he can with stand.
Ah right my bad if I got it wrong. But even if you are saying Secret Wars onwards then he doesn't show any sign of dying against the Ultimates. Heck if I remember he wanted to be captured didn't he?
And for Sentry we know his story. His lore etc. But we're just going around in circles and I'm getting tired so Ill be going to bed now. At least we're slowly getting to an agreement (but that's better than nothing 😄).
Originally posted by hutchy1345
So sentry really is stronger than franklin?
I'm genuinely interested to know, new enough to comics so I amThink it's become clear that either way onslaught loses
Doubtful, but I wouldn't place him far below. The problem with trying to gauge Sentry's full power is that we've never seen his upper limit. That being said, you can't just automatically place him above Franklin's power level. No feats to prove it means no deal.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Wrong. Basically you are saying any interpretation on what is shown counts but the not the guy who wrote it. His words are law pertaining to his own work.False, you are wrong. Quit thinking about specific writers and focus on the greater truth. The writer matters per his own work otherwise dummies are free to misinterpret and troll all day long. I do not like people who troll.
So says the dummy that has argued that Thanos beats Void/Sentry via mindrape, but also argues that a being with the combined psionic power of Franklin, Nate, and Xavier cant...
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Originally posted by Stoic
Doubtful, but I wouldn't place him far below. The problem with trying to gauge Sentry's full power is that we've never seen his upper limit.
You will never see Sentry's upper limit because he has none.
That being said, you can't just automatically place him above Franklin's power level. No feats to prove it means no deal.
I've already quoted his feats.
Originally posted by TheLordofMurderThanos wins for other reasons. Onslaught loses to the Void. Badly. Onslaught wasn't impressive at all when compared to these beings.
So says the dummy that has argued that Thanos beats Void/Sentry via mindrape, but also argues that a being with the combined psionic power of Franklin, Nate, and Xavier cant...😂
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