Can Darth Nihilus drain a planet without orbital bombardment?

Started by MythLord8 pages
Originally posted by Deronn_solo
Yeah, WotC, a license-holder to publish Star Wars related works, lal. I see no reason why it wouldn't be canon. The Bastila thing only pertained to the RPG game mechanics, and the Malak > Kun thing doesn't invalidate anything. I can scan through encyclopedia and find multiple objectively incorrect information.

But on a website blog... which Leland notes it isn't canon even for The Official Star Wars website. If even the blogs that the highest authority of the SW universe authorizes isn't to be considered canon, just the databanks, I doubt someone with the license to write sourcebooks with RPG stats making a blog would have that much power over the lore.

Originally posted by Deronn_solo
As I said before, one can claim Nihilus ruined the planet with his strength in the dark side. The quote never specifically mentioned the ship[s] bombarding anything. That just a conclusion some read, and came up with.

It makes more sense for it to be ships, than his TK, since even Sheev couldn't simply sweep aside and raze a planet with TK.

But on a website blog.

So what? The crux of a web enchantment, is to expand on the Star Wars role-playing game, which it does, and the Star Wars role playing games are factually apart Star Wars universe --- with the stats and such, being canon per Chee himself. Those blogs were never meant to expand on anything at all --- hence, why it isn't even reviewed by the Star Wars publishing group.

It makes more sense for it to be ships, than his TK, since even Sheev couldn't simply sweep aside and raze a planet with TK.

Your arbitrary power capping doesn't negate the fact that the quote can factually be interpreted in multiple ways.

It's not cut and dry --- period.

Originally posted by MythLord
Drain doesn't it cause buildings to crumble, nor does it cause explosions since both Force Drain and Drain Life only target the metaphysical -- life essence and Force connection.

You can literally see that it does you tool.

Wheres the bombardment?

Originally posted by Deronn_solo
So what? The crux of a web enchantment, is to expand on the Star Wars role-playing game, which it does, and the Star Wars role playing games are factually apart Star Wars universe --- with the stats and such, being canon per Chee himself. Those blogs were never meant to expand on anything at all --- hence, why it isn't even reviewed by the Star Wars publishing group.

Quote the stats are canon? Because those stats only pertain to game mechanics, which Leland confirms is non-canon.
The fact that LucasArts didn't even authorize this expanded blog/web article puts it in even more a dump, canon-wise.

Originally posted by Deronn_solo
Your arbitrary power capping doesn't negate the fact that the quote can factually be interpreted in multiple ways.

It's not cut and dry --- period.

It isn't arbitrary, there's factual limitations to each character, even beings superior to Nihilus factually, and Nihilus seems to be shedding them if we interpret the quote that way.

Originally posted by Nephthys
You can literally see that it does you tool.

Wheres the bombardment?

That is the bombardment, numbskull. Drain doesn't operate on a physical, material level. Saying it does completely contradicts the principles of the power.

Vitiate's did though did it not?

Originally posted by MythLord
That is the bombardment, numbskull. Drain doesn't operate on a physical, material level. Saying it does completely contradicts the principles of the power.

There's no bombardment, you twit. You can see the attack causing the damage. Where are the lasers causing those buildings to collapse?

Look at the picture:

No ships anywhere, even in an orbital shot, no lasers, no explosions. Only Nihilus' attack causing the destruction. You literally see a shot from orbit of the attack reaching a city, the destruction in progress and then Visas fleeing with the destruction in the progress and nowhere are there any ships or lasers. They literally show you a shot from orbit right before the attack. No ships. What a surprise.

Vitiates destruction of Ziost caused massive destruction of the planet and disintegrated the population as well. Just leave.

Man, debating with you [Wollf] is like banging your head against a wall in ad infinitum, lal. You didn't meet many of my post head on, and refuse to concede when you're wrong.

Quote the stats are canon? Because those stats only pertain to game mechanics, which Leland confirms is non-canon.

I posted it a while back on one of Wolfrazers blogs. I'll look for it if I can, but honestly, I'm working on my important matters at the moment, and this debate is starting to bore me to tears.

The fact that LucasArts didn't even authorize this expanded blog/web article puts it in even more a dump, canon-wise.

Wizard of the Coast has publishing rights to the Star Wars RPG, and has a call in what does, and doesn't expand the game, lmao. As they were more or less in charge of the game.

Information in those role-playing game sourcebooks are factually canon, and that was that snippet regarding Darth Nihilus is. If they says something supplements game, it does just that. And you have absolute zero basis to throw it out besides some blogs on Star Wars .com that as never meant to supplement any in canon works or the like.

It isn't arbitrary.

Yeah it is.

There's factual limitations to each character, even beings superior to Nihilus factually, and Nihilus seems to be shedding them if we interpret the quote that way.

Except, devastating a planet with Force powers isn't beyond Palpatine's. 😬

The quote isn't conclusive at all, accept it and move on.

wow, wolf is still clueless even after are convo on hangouts, sad. 🙂

Yo Beni, could you PM me your gmail so I can add you to the hangout with Ant/Skillz/Elm/Temp/myself/Syn/etc.?

He's blinder than Visas, lol.

Maybe Big N dug his eyes out too and thats why he's gunning for him.

👆

Originally posted by Emperordmb
Yo Beni, could you PM me your gmail so I can add you to the hangout with Ant/Skillz/Elm/Temp/myself/Syn/etc.?
who says I want those people in my life kek

Fair enough, DC.

Neph, die plz.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
who says I want those people in my life kek

Well you let Wollf in your life

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He can do it without bombardment (but not without starving).

I don't think he needs bombardment.

Of course he can do that if you think how much raw Force power he possesses. 🙂 🙂

Interesting bump --- does anyone have anything new to add?

As far as I know, the implication of Nihilus needing bombardment is simply wishful and selective thinking.

Originally posted by Deronn_solo
Except, devastating a planet with Force powers isn't beyond Palpatine's. 😬

It is if you think how much Nihilus grew in power after consuming other planets(with rich Force-sensitivity)
And it's not like Sidious could do what Nihilus did.
He was simply (slowly) draining the life of the Byss' inhabitants for decades.
Indeed, Sidious could use Force drain on a wide-planetary scale. But nowhere suggests that he can do it instantly or like Darth Nihilus.

And how Palpatine says it in that particular instance in that comic book. It could mean that the Byss' people 'willingly' gave their life-force to Darth Sidious.