Originally posted by krisblazeSo iyo, an attack like that is just going to bounce off Logan... Cuz tenacity? Can't agree with that, lol.
I don't believe so.Wolverine has enhanced durability and I don't think making a stormtrooper inside his armor is a free pass to making anyone disappear.
Especially not someone as tenacious as Wolverine.
Annnnyway, I don't think an attack like that would even be necessary, tbh. One twitch of a finger, and Vader could simply crush Logan's trachea, and/or rip it entirely out of his body. 👆
Originally posted by Galan007
So iyo, an attack like that is just going to bounce off Logan... Cuz tenacity? Can't agree with that, lol.Annnnyway, I don't think an attack like that would even be necessary, tbh. One twitch of a finger, and Vader could simply crush Logan's trachea, and/or rip it entirely out of his body. 👆
I didn't say that.
I just don't think disintegrating him is a realistic outcome. Just like I don't think removing his flesh the adamantium is realistic.
Characters generally have some degree of resistance to manipulation. Wolverine exceedingly so.
I am sceptical of any force user's ability to permanently put down Wolverine because of a few reasons.
a) most of their power use is trivial
b) I very rarely see extended force use
c) the star wars comics are wildly inconsistent
Originally posted by Galan007
c.) Vader ripping Logan's trachea out of his body. Repeatedly. 🙂{edit}
kris edited. 🙁
Yeah I don't know why I was trying to boil it down to two scenarios lmao.
Regarding the OP:
Originally posted by Galan007
I'd like PG to give some clarification, because Vader could wipe his ass with Logan effortlessly. The only thing stopping him from winning is the 'to the death' stip... Which, frankly, seems pretty ridiculous. Vader is clearly superior across the board. If he *can't* perma-kill Logan because of his HF, then this is just a loaded thread, tbh. /shrug
Originally posted by krisblazeOff hand, the only Force ability I can think of that *should* be able to perma-kill Logan are Force Storms(which Vader cannot conjure.)
I am sceptical of any force user's ability to permanently put down Wolverine because of a few reasons.a) most of their power use is trivial
b) I very rarely see extended force use
c) the star wars comics are wildly inconsistent
Sure, there are other abilities/displays of power that might very well be sufficient to break or destroy Adamantium, but there is obviously no way to know for sure. There are no real Adamantium-esque materials in the SW-verse. /shrug
Originally posted by Galan007Clearly Vader has a massive advantage so to make it more "fair" the fight is a deathmatch where Wolverine is afforded a little more of a sporting chance given his powers and physiology. Wolverine CAN kill Darth Vader, but getting to him while not getting killed in the process is the spirit of the thread, but also if Vader is capable of killing him as well
Vader can, and has, sustained himself for months with the Force alone. Admittedly, though, that was Legends, so I'm not sure if it would be allowed here.Dunno, I'd like PG to give some clarification, because Vader could wipe his ass with Logan effortlessly. The only thing stopping him from winning is the 'to the death' stip... Which, frankly, seems pretty ridiculous. Vader is clearly superior across the board. If he *can't* perma-kill Logan because of his HF, then this is just a loaded thread, tbh. /shrug
Unless the consensus is that Vader's Force abilities > Adamantium, I doubt he can perma-kill Logan due to his HF. So I suppose Logan would eventually 'win' for this reason. That said, Vader would effortlessly ragdoll him for days/weeks on end, until he finally grew fatigued enough for Logan to give him the stabby-stabs.
Think this is kind of a loaded battle, tbh. /shrug
Originally posted by krisblaze
I am sceptical of any force user's ability to permanently put down Wolverine because of a few reasons.a) most of their power use is trivial
b) I very rarely see extended force use
c) the star wars comics are wildly inconsistent
Yeah I don't know why I was trying to boil it down to two scenarios lmao.
As if all of those points couldn't be said about little Jimmy and his comic book ,TV, and Movie appearances as well.
Originally posted by Galan007Wolverine can't be that hard to kill, I mean how much cellular mitosis can he do without eating to replace all the tissue loss? Vader has a lightsaber that is known to cauterize flesh also. Wolverine's sword fight with Shingen back in the day took him at least a week to recover from but since then he's bee written as a better healer than that but I personally don't know how much more
Unless the consensus is that Vader's Force abilities > Adamantium, I doubt he can perma-kill Logan due to his HF. So I suppose Logan would eventually 'win' for this reason. That said, Vader would effortlessly ragdoll him for days/weeks on end, until he finally grew fatigued enough for Logan to give him the stabby-stabs.Think this is kind of a loaded battle, tbh. /shrug
But even if he takes a week to recover from the injuries Vader delivers, that still isn't a perma-kill... So it wouldn't constitute a loss per the stips here.
I still think Vader's best option is burning-out Logan's HF via constant, excessive damage. But Stilt(who knows more about Logan than I ever will) didn't seem to think that'd be a feasible option, so... /shrug
Originally posted by Galan007
Unless the consensus is that Vader's Force abilities > Adamantium, I doubt he can perma-kill Logan due to his HF. So I suppose Logan would eventually 'win' for this reason. That said, Vader would effortlessly ragdoll him for days/weeks on end, until he finally grew fatigued enough for Logan to give him the stabby-stabs.Think this is kind of a loaded battle, tbh. /shrug
Force choke should put him out for awhile, if it can't kill him (Deadpool thought he could drown him. And Daken was killed that way, despite his hf.)
Plus, Vader can just drop a big heavy object on Logan. (What does a featureless enviro have in it? Rocks? Sand?)
He's hard to kill, but painfully easy to incapacitate if you can physically overpower him (Hulk could bury him forever, if he wanted to )