Obi Wan vs. Satele Shan (force battle)

Started by Ursumeles4 pages

http://www.bilder-upload.eu/show.php?file=0f58d7-1482008748.png
Can't post it normally, lmao.
Edit: And http://static3.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11117/111178634/5496134-pulls+an+aircraft.jpg

Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
"Lifting/dragging starships which are in motion, from the cockpit, using TK (he's done this on two occasions) is better than scrapping droids."

Quotes?

"Tearing down (and thus uprooting) that massive tree in seconds (the tree's height is many times that of the dreadnought Anakin moved, for the record) is better."

Calc?

Not questioning that it happened just want the proof so I can use it myself.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11126/111265303/4928967-tk+lifts+jedi+fighter+by+the+nose.png Urs posted the other ship guiding feat

http://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/battles-7/darth-nox-vs-obi-wan-kenobi-1810417/?page=2#js-message-17211770

Thanks.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
Obi-Shan wins.

This.

Good to see he's getting more support on the forums now instead of just being the guy that automatically loses Force rounds.

Nova... You're aware NG was being humorous by saying "Obi-Shan" to present an ambiguous bent to his answer?

I didn't even see it, lol. I literally saw "Obi-Wan".

Who cares. Obi-Wan wins.

*Shrug*

I go back and forth depending on how I view the Satele = Marr > Act II Nox quotes.

Kenobi wins

@ILS: Apologies for the untimely response. RL and all that jazz, you know?

Blowing up Durge, who laughs off rockets, grenades and hundreds of blaster bolts is better than scrapping droids.

You do know Hex droids sport feats of deflecting heavy artillery blast fire too[blast fire, powerful enough to utterly melt through thick durasteel], right? Even lightsabers had a difficult time penetrating it's exoskeleton, It was was no selling Sith lightning, and Force enraged TK crush from an enraged Ax[who has some pretty solid Force feats herself]. Obi-Wan accomplished his with concentration and over time. Satele crushed several droids with a simple gesture --- within the context of both showings, crushing hex droids seems a bit more impressive.

Moving on.

Lifting/dragging starships which are in motion, from the cockpit, using TK (he's done this on two occasions) is better than scrapping droids.

That depends on several factors, such as, but not limited to: The length of the fall, the speed of which it fell, and it's mass.

It could be superior, it could not be.

Holding up that massive ship (probably worth like three starfighters) alongside Anakin pre-AotC is better.

Isn't this a canon showing? How does this even apply to a Legend Kenobi? Not that we could actually quantify how much Kenobi was pulling. Regardless, I'd think crushing several droids than even lightsabers had pause to penetrate with a simple gestureis a bit more impressive, and surely mo combat applicable.

Droid crushing aside, Satele basically using a Hadouken on Malgus that penetrated his Force defenses and collapsed gigantic cliff as a side effect., decades before becoming Grand Master, strikes as more impressive, too. Even if we want to run with assumption that the tutaminis amped her --- he Shan being vastly pre-prime circumvents that argument by more than a bit.

Tearing down (and thus uprooting) that massive tree in seconds (the tree's height is many times that of the dreadnought Anakin moved, for the record) is better.

This showing is actually pretty damn impressive. Using Earth based trees as a scale, this could, quite frankly, be a 100 + ton showing - easily. More impressive than crushing hex droids if taken at face value, surely. The ease at which Satele performed the showing however, means it is nowhere near her upper limit, and that demolishing semi-lightsaber resistant creatures is a cake walk for her.

And don't even get me started on scaling from other people. Satele's out of her depth.

Satele can also benefit from some nice scaling herself, so this is hardly going to be Obi-Wan's for sure path to victory.

Shan makes him cry uncle.

Shan still wins.

They bang, pop through a time portal, and Rey is born. Mystery solved.

additional showings for kenobi:
-stalemating an unhindered post tcw anakin(obsession)
-Deflecting force blasts from mustafar anakin when not fully focused(rots novelization)
-telekentically shoving maul and oppress simultaneously(shadow conspiracy)
-cracking pre prime ventress's ribs via a force blast

And for the ship feat, its worth noting he did it 'without breaking a sweat" and he simultaneously was holding the ship together+cloaking it with a "cacoon of light"

on the topic of this battle kenobi should take this due to
a. being more powerful
b. being far more durable allowing him to tank her blasts

Satele Shan solidly

Details here: http://comicvine.gamespot.com/profile/darthant66/blog/satele-shan-respect-thread/103104/

Obi-Wan, narrowly (based on his vs Maul, Hett, and Vader showings).

And how easily he tore through those lightsaber-resistant droids onboard the Invisible Hand.

Obi-Wan might be capable of impressive showings but he is not consistent in this area. His expertise is in dueling.

Satele Shan is capable of impressive showings on a consistent basis and will overwhelm Obi-Wan in this area.

Originally posted by Geistalt
And how easily he tore through those lightsaber-resistant droids onboard the Invisible Hand.

They were not lightsaber-resistant.

And he tore through them, using a lightsaber.

Bending Grievous' forearm like a "cheap spoon", deflecting blaster bolts omnidirectionally from an army of battle droids, contending with the telekinetic strength of Anakin Skywalker? Kenobi yeah.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
Bending Grievous' forearm like a "cheap spoon", deflecting blaster bolts omnidirectionally from an army of battle droids, contending with the telekinetic strength of Anakin Skywalker? Kenobi yeah.

✅ 👆

He also appears to blow off Hett's arm in the comic rendering of their fight with TK. 🙂