Iron Fist, Black Panther, & Batman vs Psylocke, Elektra, & Lady Deathstrike

Originally posted by Supermutant
Daredevil fought Psylocke to a draw in AvX

Even still, she fought freaking Daredevil h2h. If anything, this is a testament to her h2h skills. Even without powers, she's pretty formidable.

Originally posted by Supermutant
Mystique just stalemated her too.

Then Psylocke just let her go, because there was no reason to smash her again.

Originally posted by StyleTime
They neutered Psylocke, and other X-Men, to make those fights competitive. Betsy has been in the minds of people like Wolverine and Sabertooth multiple times. Enhanced senses don't mess her up on average. This was also at a time when her TK was forgotten.

Even still, she fought freaking Daredevil h2h. If anything, this is a testament to her h2h skills. Even without powers, she's pretty formidable.

No, she didn't. Even with an ambush, Mystique still got one-shot dropped from a knee to the stomach by Psylocke. Betsy could have ended it there, but she decided to be nice and mentally repair Mystique's fragmented psyche while Mystique kept fighting. Mystique has solid TP defenses, so it took a while.

Then Psylocke just let her go, because there was no reason to smash her again.

I was being generous by giving her a draw against DD as he clearly had the upper hand and saved her from falling off a building. That's when she took advantage enough to get a draw.

No ambushed as Psylocke stated before Mystique one-shot dropped her to the ground, "I don't think I'm going to let you follow me anymore." Plus Psylocke used TP which isn't allowed here, and mentioned how Mystique's tp resistance had been weaken. So yeah w/out TP it was a stalemate.

Anyway Psylocke been on the verge of death by Sabertooth.

Originally posted by Supermutant
I was being generous by giving her a draw against DD as he clearly had the upper hand and saved her from falling off a building. That's when she took advantage enough to get a draw.

Anyway Psylocke been on the verge of death by Sabertooth.

Psylocke can fly dude. The entire fight was pis..no serious poster should use feats from that arc as norm. It was trash.

Creed in his prime would be a decent fight to anyone here. He's already had Tchalla dead to rights in his own backyard and Bruce is a non factor.

Yeah, we don't want to use low showings here....*cough rifle butt cough*

Psylocke had AoA Sabretooth beat though.

She is far more formidable than when she fought 616 Creed and she didn't have TK at the time, so I don't see the relevance...

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Yeah, we don't want to use low showings here....*cough rifle butt cough*

That wasnt a low showing dear. Nice try

Originally posted by Sin I AM
That wasnt a low showing dear. Nice try

Was talking to Supermutant, love.

He calls it a low showing (the Panther incident).

I do agree though, it IS a nice try - as I succeeded 🙂

Edit: here you go:

Originally posted by Supermutant

If you want to focus on one low-showing with iffy context fine, just make sure you do the same for DD.

So yeah, he thinks it is a low showing, so I am saying that if low showings for Betsy are being used, low showings (as per him) would also be fair game.

Really, it's astounding that I have to walk you through so many points today.

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Bfr is always an option love. I was referring to an actual fight. In a real fight with a serious opponent you're not doing what she did there. But sure we can agree that if i grabbed u and flew u in the air i could drop u and win.

If you have two characters with the exact same strength level, and one puts the other in a bearhug, the victim isn't breaking out of that, due to inferior leverage.

And dropping someone isn't BFR. Or do you need help on that too? Always willing to help babe.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Was talking to Supermutant, love.

He calls it a low showing (the Panther incident).

I do agree though, it IS a nice try - as I succeeded 🙂

Edit: here you go:

So yeah, he thinks it is a low showing, so I am saying that if low showings for Betsy are being used, low showings (as per him) would also be fair game.

Really, it's astounding that I have to walk you through so many points today.

If you have two characters with the exact same strength level, and one puts the other in a bearhug, the victim isn't breaking out of that, due to inferior leverage.

And dropping someone isn't BFR. Or do you need help on that too? Always willing to help babe.

I get what the panther fanboys are saying. They dont feel their guy should be one shot...particularly by mooks. But its a cheap shot so one the same token i dont get y they are complaining.

If we are equal how are u overpowering me to get a bear hug?

...I'm not sure why I suddenly have to walk an entire fight out, step by step lol.

You throw a punch, I sidestep, use your own momentum and spin you round so that your back is to me. Then bear hug.

Oil is optional, choc sauce isn't.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
...I'm not sure why I suddenly have to walk an entire fight out, step by step lol.

You throw a punch, I sidestep, use your own momentum and spin you round so that your back is to me. Then bear hug.

Oil is optional, choc sauce isn't.

Doubtful. Sounds like fanfic. I could always go limp shift my weight reverse your hold etc

Doubtful, but not impossible.

But this goes beyond the original premise, which was you asking what advantage flying brings.

Which I then thought I'd show, with an actual example of two similarly skilled fighters, except one has flight, fighting.

Which happened in a comic.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Doubtful, but not impossible.

But this goes beyond the original premise, which was you asking what advantage flying brings.

Which I then thought I'd show, with an actual example of two similarly skilled fighters, except one has flight, fighting.

Which happened in a comic.

I mustve missed that scan because i saw betty fighting a mook. Not a similary skilled opponent.

Originally posted by Sin I AM
I mustve missed that scan because i saw betty fighting a mook. Not a similary skilled opponent.

I'm not quite sure where all this attempt at hostility comes from, but I guess you're paying me attention, which is always good.

I guess you just keep missing the point, and can only focus on one thing at a time (i.e. the latest post).

Original point, which still remains, is that flying can indeed be an advantage. Like you said, anything's possible 👆

Originally posted by Supermutant
I was being generous by giving her a draw against DD as he clearly had the upper hand and saved her from falling off a building. That's when she took advantage enough to get a draw.

No ambushed as Psylocke stated before Mystique one-shot dropped her to the ground, "I don't think I'm going to let you follow me anymore." Plus Psylocke used TP which isn't allowed here, and mentioned how Mystique's tp resistance had been weaken. So yeah w/out TP it was a stalemate.

Anyway Psylocke been on the verge of death by Sabertooth.

Mystique's response suggested Betsy was bluffing, and certainly wasn't expecting an attack. Even weakened, Mystique's psi-defense was considerable. Betsy still decided to help Mystique, indicating she didn't want a fight. She only threw one attack, which dropped Mystique into position for execution. The reverse didn't happen. Holding back, Psylocke had the upper hand against a Mystique going for the kill.

This is silly. Your whole purpose here is to pretend like it affects Psylocke's standing in this match. Betsy didn't use TK in either scenario, which she has here. We already know Betsy isn't the best pure martial artist here, but she doesn't have to be because of telekinesis. She would be a monster against anyone here. Just like when she went HAM on Wolverine.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
I'm not quite sure where all this attempt at hostility comes from, but I guess you're paying me attention, which is always good.

I guess you just keep missing the point, and can only focus on one thing at a time (i.e. the latest post).

Original point, which still remains, is that flying can indeed be an advantage. Like you said, anything's possible 👆

Saint. Im following the convo. What im saying is your scan does not prove your point. No veiled hostility et el.

Why is everyone going on about Psylocke? T2 has Lady Deathstrike. She's a bionic version of Wolverine : adamantium, samurai skills, healing factor, bionics. Has she been nerfed?

T2 wins with ease (unless Lady D was hit with a nerf bat).

Originally posted by zopzop
Why is everyone going on about Psylocke? T2 has Lady Deathstrike. She's a bionic version of Wolverine : adamantium, samurai skills, healing factor, bionics. Has she been nerfed?

T2 wins with ease (unless Lady D was hit with a nerf bat).

someone called betty the weak link when she's infact the big gun. deathstrike hasn't been much imo since logan soloed that bar filled with his villians. but that was pis

t2 also doesn't win win ease. its very competitive

Originally posted by zopzop
Why is everyone going on about Psylocke? T2 has Lady Deathstrike. She's a bionic version of Wolverine : adamantium, samurai skills, healing factor, bionics. Has she been nerfed?

T2 wins with ease (unless Lady D was hit with a nerf bat).

Anti metal claws.

hmmmm....keep hearing shit about these nti-metal claws but have yet to see them affect metal. anyone got any scans of this?

Not on hand.

Panther used them under Priest, against Iron Man. Forced him to use an experimental stealth armor made of ceramic (Involved a weird aside where a future Stark and future Panther ended up ambushing the present two and taking their place for round two. Ended up a fight to the death, with Panther using stolen code to stop Stark's pacemaker, and T'challa suffering a fatal stroke).

Anyways, those anti metal claws cut up Stark's metal armor like it was made of butter. Probably made of antartic vibranium.