Unlocked Hulk vs DOS JLA

Hulk as shown in onslaught saga unleashed vs Guy Garner with yellow ring, Maxima, Blodwynd, Superman, Fire, Booster Gold, Ice and Blue Bettle.

Hulk has one hand tied behind his back and has to take a full blast from Superman's hv, booster gold, Guy Gardner, Bloodwynd and Fire until they run out power, if he pases round 1

He goes into round 2 with out resting facing Maxima and Superman

If he pases round 2 he goes into round 3 facing Supermam and Matrix Supergirl and the MPD special forces along withthe lex corps forces.

If he survives all this with out resting he faces Superman unleashed.

Can he make it?

Doomsday's burial costume was torn to shreds by the combined blast. Hulk's pants stay intact in like every fight. Hulk dies no later than when they all blast him.

Originally posted by Delta1938
Doomsday's burial costume was torn to shreds by the combined blast. Hulk's pants stay intact in like every fight. Hulk dies no later than when they all blast him.

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I will even put WWH in here and he doesn't survive this one either

Unlocked Hulk clears...

Keep in mind the following; we use average showings when arguing these things...

This version of Hulk has no Low Showings and was able to outperform a Skyfather level being in hand to hand combat (thereby pegging himself as Skyfather level during this period of time)...

This version of Hulk tanked attacks from a Skyfather level being, was able to return fire (which was was beyond the JLA and anything seen from Supes or Doomsday during the DoS arc), and actually managed to get the upperhand...

Superman and Doomsday (on the other hand) were both KO'ed and/or significantly harmed by an exploding gas station and falling trees among other things (significantly lowering their average)...

Unlocked Hulk clears...

Lol at the lowballing.

Keep in mind that this version of JLA survived Starbreaker who will crap all over onslaught and this vesion of JLA faced a doomsday who already had survived an OAN guardian kamikaze attack and a full blast by radiant that lay waste to a 1/5 of a planet, so lol at the gas station, I guess not at bad as getting killed by storm with a lighting bolt and cable's attack right?

DOS Doomsday will chew up storm and cable and spit them right out he will also outperform Unlocked Hulk.

You can have your opinion my friend, but in this case IMO the evidence doesn't help your case.

He falls at the full blast and not even by miracle survives unleashed superman

Originally posted by Rao Kal El
Lol at the lowballing.

Keep in mind that this version of JLA survived Starbreaker who will crap all over onslaught and this vesion of JLA faced a doomsday who already had survived an OAN guardian kamikaze attack and a full blast by radiant that lay waste to a 1/5 of a planet, so lol at the gas station, I guess not at bad as getting killed by storm with a lighting bolt and cable's attack right?

DOS Doomsday will chew up storm and cable and spit them right out he will also outperform Unlocked Hulk.

You can have your opinion my friend, but in this case IMO the evidence doesn't help your case.

He falls at the full blast and not even by miracle survives unleashed superman

There is no low balling going on my part; I am simply looking at all showings performed by each respective character...

Onslaught at the end of the Onslaught Saga was not killed by Cable or Storm; this version of Onslaught was performing Solar Level Reality Warp at will due to utilization of Franklins Power...

Unlocked Hulk got the upperhand against that version of Onslaught...

No matter what you say, you cant change the fact that DoS Superman and Doomsday were KO'ed by a gas station and falling trees...

Unlocked Hulk and Peak Power Onslaught have no lows on this level to their name...

Average showings Rao...

Based on the evidence provided by their averages, Unlocked Hulk clears...

Wasn't that Onslaught's plan? To be unlocked himself?

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
There is no low balling going on my part; I am simply looking at [b]all showings performed by each respective character...

Onslaught at the end of the Onslaught Saga was not killed by Cable or Storm; this version of Onslaught was performing Solar Level Reality Warp at will due to utilization of Franklins Power...

Unlocked Hulk got the upperhand against that version of Onslaught...

No matter what you say, you cant change the fact that DoS Superman and Doomsday were KO'ed by a gas station and falling trees...

Unlocked Hulk and Peak Power Onslaught have no lows on this level to their name...

Average showings Rao...

Based on the evidence provided by their averages, Unlocked Hulk clears... [/B]

Oh yeah I forgot you think a mini sun over manhattan is = to solar system reality warping.

This Hulk got killed by storm plain and simple it's a low showing for him and onslaught.... Well he didn't do too much either for all the power he was supposed to have so I guess going by "averages" they didn't do too much either.

Except that by "average" Onslaught was basically affecting central park only and hulk was as weak that He could get killed by storm and Superman/JLA vs Doomsday took place in several states.

But I guess that's not the "average" you are looking for, right?

You are looking for the "average" that shows that onslaught was solar system level reality warper? Which doesn't exist btw.

Originally posted by Rao Kal El
Oh yeah I forgot you think a mini sun over manhattan is = to solar system reality warping.

This Hulk got killed by storm plain and simple it's a low showing for him and onslaught.... Well he didn't do too much either for all the power he was supposed to have so I guess going by "averages" they didn't do too much either.

Except that by "average" Onslaught was basically affecting central park only and hulk was as weak that He could get killed by storm and Superman/JLA vs Doomsday took place in several states.

But I guess that's not the "average" you are looking for, right?

You are looking for the "average" that shows that onslaught was solar system level reality warper? Which doesn't exist btw.

Anybody got scans of the sun making?

And wasn't Hulk actually more powerful when he faced Cable and Storm since Banner being in the HEROES REBORN universe made Hulk draw energy from it, or something along those lines?

Originally posted by Delta1938
Anybody got scans of the sun making?

And wasn't Hulk actually more powerful when he faced Cable and Storm since Banner being in the HEROES REBORN universe made Hulk draw energy from it, or something along those lines?

Was trying to find the scans on my pb but I couldn't.

It was a mini sun created on top of central park Manhattan, it was visible from Manhattan anf there is no indication that it was visible in plain view to the whole world let alone the solar system any claims that it was it is basically reaching at best and no one has provided evidence that this was a solar system event.

It will be like me claiming that superman moved a solar system when in fact he moved a mini solar system only visible on metropolis

Originally posted by Rao Kal El
Was trying to find the scans on my pb but I couldn't.

It was a mini sun created on top of central park Manhattan, it was visible from Manhattan anf there is no indication that it was visible in plain view to the whole world let alone the solar system any claims that it was it is basically reaching at best and no one has provided evidence that this was a solar system event.

It will be like me claiming that superman moved a solar system when in fact he moved a mini solar system only visible on metropolis

There is absolutely proof that it was a full blown star...

Reed Richards, Marvels Scientist Supreme, calls it a star...

Furthermore, he feared that its gravity would destroy the Earth:

This is the second time you attempted to deny what is made clear on panel...

Where I come from thats called trolling...

Originally posted by Rao Kal El
Oh yeah I forgot you think a mini sun over manhattan is = to solar system reality warping.

This Hulk got killed by storm plain and simple it's a low showing for him and onslaught.... Well he didn't do too much either for all the power he was supposed to have so I guess going by "averages" they didn't do too much either.

Except that by "average" Onslaught was basically affecting central park only and hulk was as weak that He could get killed by storm and Superman/JLA vs Doomsday took place in several states.

But I guess that's not the "average" you are looking for, right?

You are looking for the "average" that shows that onslaught was solar system level reality warper? Which doesn't exist btw.

Heroes Reborn is not the original Onslaught Saga and neither Onslaught or Hulk were as powerful as they were at the end of the Onslaught Saga...

You are arguing with a bait and switch tactic; you claim this thread is pertaining to Unlocked Hulk, but you then try to argue using a different version (and are doing the same with Onslaught)...

Well your attempt has failed...

Unlocked Hulk doesnt have any of the low showings you are attempting to assign to him and Peak Power Onslaught has Solar Level Reality Warp...

Unlocked Hulk as portrayed at the end of the Onslaught Saga runs right thought the DoS storyline and its not even close...

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
There is absolutely proof that it was a full blown star...

Reed Richards, Marvels Scientist Supreme, calls it a star...

Furthermore, he feared that its gravity would destroy the Earth:

Is this it?

Originally posted by Delta1938
Is this it?

Yep thats it...

Reed calls it a star and the heroes are worried that it'll melt the Earth and wipe it clean via its gravity...

Its made crystal clear on panel...

Rao has tried his best to down play the feat, but he cant; the on panel evidence doesnt lie...

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Yep thats it...

Reed calls it a star and the heroes are worried that it'll melt the Earth and wipe it clean via its gravity...

Its made crystal clear on panel...

Rao has tried his best to down play the feat, but he cant; the on panel evidence doesnt lie...

Is this all that you have to argue it was a full sized sun?

Originally posted by Delta1938
Is this all that you have to argue it was a full sized sun?

Have you been following the conversation?

Rao is claiming that it wasnt really a star; he claims that it was only visible over Manhattan and was only a local effect...

He is dead wrong and the on panel text makes it clear that it is a full sized star based on it having sufficient temperature and gravitational strength to destroy the Earth...

Once again, what is stated on panel is crystal clear; it is a full sized star and Rao is trolling by attempting to say otherwise (and downplay the magnitude of Onslaughts Power in the process)...

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
This is the second time you attempted to deny what is made clear on panel...

Where I come from thats called trolling...

You made the affirmative claim, guess who has the burden on proof?

I have already shown to you why this is not solar system reality warping not even worldwide, but a localized event in Manhattan.

And yes those "average" showings will count for the hulk, IIRC onslaught just trapped or imprisoned Banner on his mind and Hulk was on the loose as in unleashed or unlocked thanks to onslaught. Again IIRC

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Have you been following the conversation?

Rao is claiming that it wasnt really a star; he claims that it was only visible over Manhattan and was only a local effect...

He is dead wrong and the on panel text makes it clear that it is a full sized star based on it having sufficient temperature and gravitational strength to destroy the Earth...

Once again, what is stated on panel is crystal clear; it is a full sized star and Rao is trolling by attempting to say otherwise (and downplay the magnitude of Onslaughts Power in the process)...

Oh, I'm following the conversation. I read the scan, you're doing an awful lot of reaching to come to that conclusion. I have a feeling it'd be pointless to give my reasoning, you seem to get mad that people aren't agreeing with you. Or will you not call me a troll for telling you why I look at your scan and go "meh"?

Originally posted by Rao Kal El
You made the affirmative claim, guess who has the burden on proof?

I have already shown to you why this is not solar system reality warping not even worldwide, but a localized event in Manhattan.

And yes those "average" showings will count for the hulk, IIRC onslaught just trapped or imprisoned Banner on his mind and Hulk was on the loose as in unleashed or unlocked thanks to onslaught. Again IIRC

I have proved that it was a full blown star based on it having sufficient temperature and gravitational strength to destroy the Earth...

Localized event my @ss...

Marvels number 1 scientist calls it a star, so guess what? Its a star...

And no, Hulk (and Onslaught) as portrayed in Heroes Reborn are not the same as what we saw at the end of the Onslaught Saga...

Hulk and Onslaught were operating on a far higher level at the end of the Onslaught Saga than they were during Heroes Reborn and its not even close...

Unlocked Hulk was performing at Skyfather level during his battle with Onslaught....

Unlocked Hulk hits far, far, far, far, far, harder than an exploding gas station...

Unlocked Hulk runs right though the DoS storyline as a result...