Mr. Miyagi vs. Ozymandias

Started by Arachnid12 pages

Originally posted by Silent Master
Ozy has no edge in fighting speed.
I don't want to get into this man. The "fighting speed" argument people have adopted these past few years on this forum is by far one of the worse and senseless we've had. It always feels like a desperate pull attempt to null a characters feats like some people always try to do with Supes in his threads.

Pointing out how fast Ozy is shown to fight is very relevant to fight threads. what is desperate is trying to argue that Ozy is a faster fighter than the movie actually shows and using a feat that didn't take place in a fight and Ozy had plenty of time to prepare for.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Ozy has no edge in fighting speed.

Of course he does.
Catching a bullet proves it.

And

Ozy snapping out his attacks faster than Cap did and responding to faster attacks than what Cap did proves it.

Originally posted by h1a8
Of course he does.
Catching a bullet proves it.

And

Ozy snapping out his attacks faster than Cap did and responding to faster attacks than what Cap did proves it.

No it doesn't and I've already explained why. BTW Ozy didn't snap out his attacks faster than Cap and if you disagree, I challenge you to a BZ and we'll let the judges decide.

Originally posted by 950Killer
wtf lol, ozymandias caught a 900-1,150 ft/s (roughly around 600-780+ mph) bullet and you call that slow? how about miyagi? how fast that arrow was traveling and wtf is a "real bullet"? lol

O_o

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those are prop-bullets flying no faster than 150fps arrow fired from cheap china crossbows 😐

watch the video again that bullet was moving slow as hell, the scene was barely even slowed 2x the actual speed ozy's actor was moving. if it was moving fast as a real bullet it would have crossed past ozy before ozy could move his hands a inch

watch both movies again ozy is slow as fuck in comparison to dre parker and mr. han, you doesn't even need to be a world class fighter to see that ozy is ridiculously slow compared to them

ozy catched a slow-ass prop-bullet. you don't think ozy should be moving far faster than yuri boyka or ip man if he's a legit bulletcatcher 😐

last time i checked it's not very hard to hire expert martial artist stuntman or make cgi effects to appear they are moving at FTE speeds 🤣

considering ozy cannot move faster and beat ip man or mr. han, them he cannot beat miyagi either

come back when ozy stop catching prop bullets. them he might be able to touch 230mph arrows

Originally posted by FrothByte
An arrow from a Yumi would normally travel somewhere between 150 - 200 FPS. And that's me being generous and assuming this yumi actually has some power behind it.

real life stuff doesn't matter in a forum fight, shown feats are what matters here 😐

the arrow was fired from monks with supernatual powers. watch the bowling scene

the arrow took 100 milliseconds to reach miyagi. given miyagi was 15 meters apart from them: (1 sec=1000 millisecs) 15m x 10= 150m/s or 335mph

do your basic research on fictional fights before first please 😐

Originally posted by Inhuman
Daniel or Dre kicks both Cap and Ozy's asses together with staggering ease 😂

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Originally posted by Silent Master
No it doesn't and I've already explained why. BTW Ozy didn't snap out his attacks faster than Cap and if you disagree, I challenge you to a BZ and we'll let the judges decide.
Why use judges? We can use scenes with a timer. Ozy snapped out a punch much faster than any attack Cap thrown.
Rorshach snapped out an attack at Ozy faster than any attack thrown at Steve.

Catching a bullet requires super reflexes and super hand speed.

Originally posted by Arachnid1
I'm still colored by the original Ozy vs Cap thread honestly, back when we only had one Cap movie. I don't think he can beat Cap anymore at this point, but no way in hell is it a stomp. He still has a strong edge in speed, and he's definitely strong enough to hurt Cap, but Cap has gotten faster and stronger over the years
It is a stomp. Ozymandias is more likely to break his fist punching Cap than he is to actually hurt Cap.

Originally posted by h1a8
Why use judges? We can use scenes with a timer. Ozy snapped out a punch much faster than any attack Cap thrown.
Rorshach snapped out an attack at Ozy faster than any attack thrown at Steve.

Catching a bullet requires super reflexes and super hand speed.

Do you accept the Battle Zone?

Originally posted by NemeBro
It is a stomp. Ozymandias is more likely to break his fist punching Cap than he is to actually hurt Cap.
Cap is made of flesh. Easily cut and easily can be shot through. Ozy has superhuman strength feats. How can a someone with superhuman strength break their fist on Cap? Cap is low level superhuman.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Do you accept the Battle Zone?

No! Judges are bias. I rather prove it using science. I can post a scene with a timer in slow motion. Then we can clearly see the time it took Ozy to snap out a punch. Then you can choose any scene for Cap and I'll time that scene as well.

Originally posted by NemeBro
It is a stomp. Ozymandias is more likely to break his fist punching Cap than he is to actually hurt Cap.
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Bucky also deflected bullets with his arm before the highway chase scene, so even if you want to go with that Ozy isn't better than Cap.

Two words: leg sweep. Ozy is a genius, but even he will not see it coming. Miyagi will be all "I leg swept you 35 minutes ago".

Originally posted by h1a8
No! Judges are bias. I rather prove it using science. I can post a scene with a timer in slow motion. Then we can clearly see the time it took Ozy to snap out a punch. Then you can choose any scene for Cap and I'll time that scene as well.

LOL!!!