Darth Traya, Darth Maul, Darth Tyranus vs Vader, PoD Bane, Cognus

Originally posted by Nephthys
Nihilus used it against nearly a hundred Jedi and a planet of force sensitives. Plus collectively the Jedi Council would amount to a very respectable level of power.

It's stated there's no defense against it. There's no mention anywhere that power has any relevance other than in Nova's wetdreams. What are you going off of to suppose that she couldn't use it against these people (no, the aforementioned dreams don't count)?

Well if that's the case where do you stop with this supposedly no limits ability? Can she "gigadrain" the Outlander? Vaylin? Sheev? Luke? Valkorion? The Ones? Where is the line with this?

Originally posted by Beniboybling
Christ, so much cancer here I'm struggling to take it all in. 🙁

Originally posted by Emperordmb
Well she used it to significantly hamper the effects of Bane's lightning with no Force training, and as of her peak she's>Zannah>Bane in the Force, so I'd say Cognus pre-prime being able to use the ability to a decent effect against someone much more powerful than herself before her very distant in the future peak where she would not only have a lot more power at her command but significantly more refinement with the ability itself is pretty suggestive that at her peak she can use the power to a pretty substantial effect against someone weaker than herself.

Traya on the other hand has never used this power on someone even remotely on her own level, much less above, and has no scaling from the point in time that she did use that power to suggest a drastic increase in her ability with it.

And I'm not sure what reason we have to believe that Cognus is even as strong as the combined strength of Kavar, Vrook and Zez-Kai Ell. Frankly, Cognus being above Traya alone is rather unproven.

Nah Bane wasn't drugged until later on.

No, he was just exhausted.

Originally posted by Emperordmb
Hardly as cancer as comparing Traya's peak showings to Cognus's showings when Cognus had absolutely no training and acting like it's a fair comparison.

This whole Drain thing being a NLF is getting pretty stupid tbh. It's ok for this ability, just because she states there's no defense?

Well if all it takes are statements, then what about all those other abilities and or objects with fiction where the person or thing is stated as being able to block any attack, or absorb any kind of energy?

I mean cause the person who uses these things has clear knowledge about it, so why don't we take their statements as serious instead of writing them off as a NLF?

There has to be a line somewhere.

Note, this isn't commenting on the match here, I'm just saying this here because this whole Drain thing is becoming a NLF that's ok to use apparently just because of a statement, when you do have other similar statements regarding other things, yet people agree there are limits to those things.

There is No Defense™, Traya drains everyone here.