World War Hulk replaces Doomsday...

So Hulk is solo here, he is not getting help from the warbound, he is solo like Doomsday was solo on the arc.

Since some people like collateral damage a lot lets see

Hulk faced Black Bolt and the power of black bolt took a chunk out of the moon the size of Manhattan.

Doomsday was killed by Radiant by a blast that laid waste to a 1/5 of Calaton, since this happened before DOS, Doomsday was already impervious to such an attack also had survived an explosion that open a hole in reality.

If We asume that Calaton was the size of earth will mean that 1/5 of the planet it will be the size of Asia.

We then compare the sizes of Manhattan vs Asia
That Hulk is not getting help from the warbound and
That Hulk will have one hand tied behind his back

So yes... Hulk dies

The initial onslaught of beams take him down.

If not then he rampages a bit, might kill booster gold or something, and then gets put down.

Too slow to be any resl threat to a serious league.

Damn right.

Also, I love how Marvel writers compare moon collateral damage to Manhattan. Everything's about New York with Marvel. It's no wonder Superman claimed their Earth is smaller, like 90% of the population lives in New York.

Do you guys think Maxima's TP would be of any use here?

Originally posted by Galan007
Do you guys think Maxima's TP would be of any use here?

Maybe not alone, but combined with J'onn and Guy to reinforce them?

Lets not forget, many of the JLA's Rogues are tp based, and high end tp at that. Megaddon, Brainiac, White Martians... All at or above the heaviest hitters on the Onslaught Battlefield.

IMO, a martian should be >>>>> any non Phoenix enhanced telepath simply by virture of the fact their entire race is centered around tp refinement. They are telepathic disciplinarians, martial artists if you will, who actively developed techniques over thousands of years.

Edit: Wrong thread.

But I still say, yes. Maxima's invaded Superman's mind, who has been established as being highly tp resistant, and only the Eradicator blocked her out.

That JL would not be able to take the Green Scar, even with the limiter firmly placed on him. And Fire would be put out quickly. Human Torch and Storm hit him with a combined elemental assault, and it did nothing whatsoever. Despero's was chumped.

It's not really intended as a 'limiter' per se. Hulk didn't battle any of the heroes in his 'World Breaker' persona/mindset during the entire arc -- that's why wanted his 'regular' WWH mindset here(he was still stronger than ever before, after all.)

Why do you believe Hulk wins?

Originally posted by Galan007
Do you guys think Maxima's TP would be of any use here?

Is a complete guess but yes, she is powerful enough with her TP to make a difference.

Doomsday was only pure rage with out rhyme or reason.

Hulk wasn't, hulk was more like a focused rage.

So maybe yes she could have make a difference.

Originally posted by Rao Kal El
So Hulk is solo here, he is not getting help from the warbound, he is solo like Doomsday was solo on the arc.

Since some people like collateral damage a lot lets see

Hulk faced Black Bolt and the power of black bolt took a chunk out of the moon the size of Manhattan.

Doomsday was killed by Radiant by a blast that laid waste to a 1/5 of Calaton, since this happened before DOS, Doomsday was already impervious to such an attack also had survived an explosion that open a hole in reality.

If We asume that Calaton was the size of earth will mean that 1/5 of the planet it will be the size of Asia.

We then compare the sizes of Manhattan vs Asia
That Hulk is not getting help from the warbound and
That Hulk will have one hand tied behind his back

So yes... Hulk dies

One footfall from the Hulk holding back nearly sank the entire East Coast. It took far less than what you describe to put Doomsday down on panel. All of the other members were fodder. The only character that even mattered was Superman.

Hulk is not beating Superman. Or at least he's not beating Maxima and Superman at the same time.

Originally posted by h1a8
Hulk is not beating Superman. Or at least he's not beating Maxima and Superman at the same time.

Let's not bring up ridiculous low showings which totally conflict with the characters' established histories, please... You don't see me bringing up the Gamma Corps doing far better against WWH than all the earth heroes(inc. Sentry), do you?

Originally posted by Stoic
That JL would not be able to take the Green Scar, even with the limiter firmly placed on him. And Fire would be put out quickly. Human Torch and Storm hit him with a combined elemental assault, and it did nothing whatsoever. Despero's was chumped.

Here he is getting hit with a full assault from Booster, Guy Gardner, Bloodwynd, Fire and boy scout Superman how is Hulk going to be standing after getting hit with all that power and a hand tied behind his back?

Plus on top of that IF he survives it , he still has to steamroll the JLA and after that take onto Maxima and Superman leaving his boy scout mindset.

How is Hulk replicating all that? He had help during WWH from the warbound, he just can't simple survive this one, he will need to go WB mode, but on WWH persoba he just doesn't have the juice to do it.

Originally posted by Stoic
One footfall from the Hulk holding back nearly sank the entire East Coast. It took far less than what you describe to put Doomsday down on panel. All of the other members were fodder. The only character that even mattered was Superman.

All the other "fodder" caharacters defeated starbreaker.

Originally posted by Galan007
It's not really intended as a 'limiter' per se. Hulk didn't battle any of the heroes in his 'World Breaker' persona/mindset during the entire arc -- that's why wanted his 'regular' WWH mindset here(he was still stronger than ever before, after all.)

Why do you believe Hulk wins?

He held back the entire time due to plot. His intention was to bring those that he blamed for ruining his happiness to trial as seen on panel. This is the very same Hulk that reversed the planet of Sakaar's fate by physically over powering a chain event set on that planets destruction by shifting its tectonic plates. The continent of Asia being a big deal is highly laughable when we considered that it took him far less than a minute to ramp up in strength to achieve said feat.

When he was in the Dark Dimension he allowed himself to let go, and Doomsday was letting go the entire time. The power difference here is astronomical. DOS Doomsday never came close to reaching that level of power, and since I'm assuming that this is Just the JL that Doomsday stomped out without adding all of the innocent lives that would normally be at stake in a comic book, the Hulk has a lot of rope to work with here. IMO he has far more than the amount of rope needed to outdo anything that DOS Doomsday exhibited on panel.

Originally posted by Galan007
Let's not bring up ridiculous low showings which totally conflict with the characters' established histories, please... You don't see me bringing up the Gamma Corps doing far better against WWH than all the earth heroes(inc. Sentry), do you?

👆

Originally posted by Stoic
When he was in the Dark Dimension he allowed himself to let go, and Doomsday was letting go the entire time. The power difference here is astronomical. DOS Doomsday never came close to reaching that level of power, and since I'm assuming that this is Just the JL that Doomsday stomped out without adding all of the innocent lives that would normally be at stake in a comic book, the Hulk has a lot of rope to work with here. IMO he has far more than the amount of rope need to outdo anything that DOSS Doomsday exhibited on panel.

This is the same League that confronted Doomsday in DoS, yes. Difference is, they are ALL fighting Hulk together as a team, and they ALL start off bloodlusted. 🙂

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The League's roster: Superman, Maxima, Bloodwynd/J'onn, Guy Gardner(Yellow Ring), Booster Gold, Fire, Ice, Blue Beetle.

Originally posted by Rao Kal El
All the other "fodder" caharacters defeated starbreaker.

True, that.

Ice essentially saved the day, with a lot of letters noting that fact.

Originally posted by Galan007
Again, this is WWH; not WBH.

This is the League that confronted Doomsday in DoS. Difference is, they are ALL fighting Hulk together as a team, and they ALL start off bloodlusted. 🙂

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The League's roster: Superman, Maxima, Bloodwynd/J'onn, Guy Gardner(Yellow Ring), Booster Gold, Fire, Ice, Blue Beetle. [/B]

Gold alone could probably just encase Hulk indefinately.

His shield's Brainiac 5 tech. It resisted a shot out of the gate from Starbreaker, and completely blocked an eyeblast from Despero that he claimed should have reduced Martian Manhunter to ash.

Booster's shields also soaked a blast from Trigon:
http://i.imgur.com/7a4aUqR.jpg