Originally posted by Surturoh here we go again. right wingers attack obama whenever they are losing an argument. i wonder why you attack the first black president so much?? and okay obama may have been building some nukes but they were only for defense and only to make sure our deterrent was up to date. obama has always believed in diplomacy first which is why he is popular with america's allies and people abroad. trump on the other hand is building many more nukes to point at other countries and even our european allies as he said in the interview.
Obama has built more nukes than any president since the cold war ended, did you know that? So were you worried before Trump?
It almost sounds like you are saying you think Russia is trying to goad us into starting a nuclear war. Which doesn't make any sense at all. There will be no "good guys" in that scenario. Mostly because everyone would end up getting nukes dropped on them. Russia doesn't benefit from a nuclear holocaust.no i'm saying that russia is trying to destroy america's reputation by placing trump in charge who is extremely aggressive and unpopular with the entire world and who wants to build many nukes. russia are willing to take the gamble. if america's reputation is destroyed then who will stand up to russia and the other dictators?
Okay so you have a shockingly naive view of America. You think we interfered in the affairs of other countries and set up dictators in other countries in order to..liberate people? Am I understanding that correctly?well the stated intention was to liberate people most of the time but of course there were times when things turned out badly so we should learn from the mistakes but at the same time not be discouraged to stand up to dictators like hillary wanted. trump is just going to be aggressive and dumb and screw america's reputation.
Originally posted by aalyasecura95
oh here we go again. right wingers attack obama whenever they are losing an argument. i wonder why you attack the first black president so much??
Did you notice you went from "Oh you are just attacking Obama now" and then immediately tried to imply racism is playing a part in criticizing him? Lol, he is still in office at the moment. Bringing him up is fair game.
and okay obama may have been building some nukes but they were only for defense and only to make sure our deterrent was up to date. obama has always believed in diplomacy first which is why he is popular with america's allies and people abroad. trump on the other hand is building many more nukes to point at other countries and even our european allies as he said in the interview.
I just love the spin you are pulling. When Obama does it..it's just "for defense". But this implies you feel Trump wants to go on the offense and actively start nuking people, which he doesn't. You keep saying he wants to point them at other countries as if he has actively said "I'm going to nuke you". I know he has talked about nukes in the past, but since his election he hasn't said he wants to nuke anyone.
no i'm saying that russia is trying to destroy america's reputation by placing trump in charge who is extremely aggressive and unpopular with the entire world and who wants to build many nukes. russia are willing to take the gamble. if america's reputation is destroyed then who will stand up to russia and the other dictators?
You are latching on to crazy conspiracy theories. You say Trump is unpopular, but he got over 60 million votes. I know this is the part where liberals shout" but the popular vote!!" and I know he lost that, but only by 2-3 million. When put in context, the combined amount of votes they both got was over 120 million. So Hilary having 3 million more doesn't mean Trump is unpopular. When you spew that nonsense you just show why he won. It's just like the people who label all Trump supporters racist, etc.
These people are oblivious to why Hilary lost, and unfortunately do not seem willing to learn any lessons from this. They seem to be carrying on as usual, in fact they seem to have gotten worse since the election, let us hope this will fade.
well the stated intention was to liberate people most of the time but of course there were times when things turned out badly so we should learn from the mistakes but at the same time not be discouraged to stand up to dictators like hillary wanted. trump is just going to be aggressive and dumb and screw america's reputation.
You continually show a naive view of history. You always say we wanted to just "liberate" people. The truth is that wasn't always the case. Sometimes it was about resources and sometimes it was just plain fear.
Can you tell me how installing a dictator in a country that is 90% Buddhist..if the dictator is Christian..liberates people? Do you know what that dictator did to the population? Imprisonment and death doesn't sound like liberation. Of course it got so bad there was a coup and the guy was murdered by his generals. I'm talking about Vietnam, and that is just one example.
Originally posted by SquallX
So wait! We're not allowed to attack Obamacare because he's Black?😆
News flash, Obama holds the higher level of office in this Country, and not to criticize him because he's black, is the epitome of stupidity.
Before any call me racist needs to know am Black.
Damn auto correct changed Obama to Obamacare.
Originally posted by Surturwell far-right people have been attacking obama non-stop to an unreasonable degree. that to me implies racism to an extent. obama is one of the most vilified presidents in history due to these smear campaigns when he doesn't deserve it at all.
Did you notice you went from "Oh you are just attacking Obama now" and then immediately tried to imply racism is playing a part in criticizing him? Lol, he is still in office at the moment. Bringing him up is fair game.
I just love the spin you are pulling. When Obama does it..it's just "for defense". But this implies you feel Trump wants to go on the offense and actively start nuking people, which he doesn't. You keep saying he wants to point them at other countries as if he has actively said "I'm going to nuke you". I know he has talked about nukes in the past, but since his election he hasn't said he wants to nuke anyone.uh obama obviously built nukes for defensive reasons because unlike trump he isn't some unhinged dumbass who actually thinks nuking europe could be a good idea. there is a reason why the world trusts obama and are worried about trump. and i don't see why we should just forget everything trump said before. those are his ideas we can't just ignore them.
You are latching on to crazy conspiracy theories. You say Trump is unpopular, but he got over 60 million votes. I know this is the part where liberals shout" but the popular vote!!" and I know he lost that, but only by 2-3 million. When put in context, the combined amount of votes they both got was over 120 million. So Hilary having 3 million more doesn't mean Trump is unpopular. When you spew that nonsense you just show why he won. It's just like the people who label all Trump supporters racist, etc.i was saying that trump is unpopular with the "entire world" which is why russia wanted him in so he could bring down america's reputation. was not really talking about his popularity in america. although i don't see why the popular vote is a bad thing to bring up anyway. trump lost badly in that vote and he needs to consider that the majority of americans want him to gtfo. this talk of nuke building sprees needs to stop.
You continually show a naive view of history. You always say we wanted to just "liberate" people.i said the interventions were about liberating people "most of the time". obviously there were times where the intentions were bad as well. it's all about learning from those mistakes and knowing when to intervene.
Can you tell me how installing a dictator in a country that is 90% Buddhist..if the dictator is Christian..liberates people? Do you know what that dictator did to the population? Imprisonment and death doesn't sound like liberation. Of course it got so bad there was a coup and the guy was murdered by his generals. I'm talking about Vietnam, and that is just one example.i'm not denying that we make mistakes but does that mean we should surrender to the dictators and let them rig our democracy? we need to draw a line in the sand somewhere