Captain Marvel vs Etrigan The Demon

Started by darthgoober3 pages

I don't know anywhere near enough about Etrigan or Carol to chime in on the specifics of how these two match up, but some of the comments seem to seriously be underselling Carol. She seems to be functioning on a WAY higher level nowadays than she was back when Rogue absorbed her powers. She may not be the top female in Marvel, but even back in the day her durability was one or two steps up from her power output so I really don't see anyone other than a serious heavy hitter one shotting her or anything like that. I mean she has slugged it out with guys like Wonderman on more than 1 occasion. And that's not even counting the potential of her absorbing his blast to power herself up even further(assuming his blast fall into the category of something she can absorb of course, not sure what her limits are on that kind of thing).

Originally posted by darthgoober
I don't know anywhere near enough about Etrigan or Carol to chime in on the specifics of how these two match up, but some of the comments seem to seriously be underselling Carol. She seems to be functioning on a WAY higher level nowadays than she was back when Rogue absorbed her powers. She may not be the top female in Marvel, but even back in the day her durability was one or two steps up from her power output so I really don't see anyone other than a serious heavy hitter one shotting her or anything like that. I mean she has slugged it out with guys like Wonderman on more than 1 occasion. And that's not even counting the potential of her absorbing his blast to power herself up even further(assuming his blast fall into the category of something she can absorb of course, not sure what her limits are on that kind of thing).

She's had some upgrades since the Rogue days.

The Ms Marvel v2 series made that pretty apparent to.

Rogue had her powers for awhile and as Binary. Carol completely dismissed Rogue. She ends up losing her Binary powers and is still shown above by the fact her Warbird persona comes back (Different Universe Carol) and beats up Rogue. Carol as Ms Marvel defeats Warbird without any injuries and also Knocks her out leaving her with a burned face.

As Binary she should honestly be above Etrigan. He's only being hyped up because one feat where he sent a 220lb man to the moon with a haymaker. Carol tossed a meteor through space, and destroyed a meteor bigger than most states I'm aware of.

She also broke out of be bonded to the material Caps shield is made of.

Alot of her feats go unnoticed for some reason, it might be because she's not as popular as most powerhouses or people who like her don't really visit the battleforums.

Originally posted by Flyattractor
[b]I do wonder how much of a diff tune Carver will sing when Carol is made the most powerfull Marvel Character in the MCU and thus knocks Hulk off the top spot... [/B]

Already done.

Has she ever absorbed Hell Fire/magic?

Quick question.
Wouldn't etrigan doing that to supes be under the guise of using magic on him?

Originally posted by Genii96
Quick question.
Wouldn't etrigan doing that to supes be under the guise of using magic on him?

No, it was a simple punch from a demon with near-Superman level strength, not a fancy magic punch. It's not like Etrigan's fist is made of magic or anything like that

Originally posted by EcstaticGrace
She's had some upgrades since the Rogue days.

The Ms Marvel v2 series made that pretty apparent to.

Rogue had her powers for awhile and as Binary. Carol completely dismissed Rogue. She ends up losing her Binary powers and is still shown above by the fact her Warbird persona comes back (Different Universe Carol) and beats up Rogue. Carol as Ms Marvel defeats Warbird without any injuries and also Knocks her out leaving her with a burned face.

As Binary she should honestly be above Etrigan. He's only being hyped up because one feat where he sent a 220lb man to the moon with a haymaker. Carol tossed a meteor through space, and destroyed a meteor bigger than most states I'm aware of.

She also broke out of be bonded to the material Caps shield is made of.


Etrigan has overpowered Wonder Woman casually, fought Lobo to a double KO twice, has overpowered Grundy and ripped out his heart and has actually beaten characters worth a damn.

He has also ripped out of Gamnanae who had absorbed all the magic from Earth and has actually forcibly bonded Spectre to a host and has actually taken attacks from Spectre himself.

Also she can't absorb magic. Etrigan would destroy her completely.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Also she can't absorb magic. Etrigan would destroy her completely.

Exactly. Her only hope is to go Full Binary from the get-go and even then she's not guaranteed a win. He has CL100 physical stats (which she doesn't have unless she's in Binary form) plus his magic which she has no answer for.

Originally posted by Cogito
No, it was a simple punch from a demon with near-Superman level strength, not a fancy magic punch. It's not like Etrigan's fist is made of magic or anything like that

Oh ok. I thought it was like an amped hit or something

Originally posted by abhilegend
Etrigan has overpowered Wonder Woman casually, fought Lobo to a double KO twice, has overpowered Grundy and ripped out his heart and has actually beaten characters worth a damn.

He has also ripped out of Gamnanae who had absorbed all the magic from Earth and has actually forcibly bonded Spectre to a host and has actually taken attacks from Spectre himself.

Also she can't absorb magic. Etrigan would destroy her completely.

What's Diana's best strength feat? Regardless I always assumed strength doesn't mean much in a fight unless you get hold of your opponent.

I don't remember Gamnanae absorbing all the magic from Earth. I'm confident Zatanna and Manitou Raven were fighting him. I also don't remember Etrigan hurting her outside the use of Hellfire.

She can absorb magic, and Etrigan isn't fast enough I think, to do so.
http://imgur.com/a/z1RDZ

Originally posted by Zack M
Has she ever absorbed Hell Fire/magic?

She's absorbed magic from someone with the eye of watoomb.
http://imgur.com/a/z1RDZ

Heat energy is her best source of absorption. She's struggled with magic, but thats against people whove bothered Strange

Originally posted by zopzop
Exactly. Her only hope is to go Full Binary from the get-go and even then she's not guaranteed a win. He has CL100 physical stats (which she doesn't have unless she's in Binary form) plus his magic which she has no answer for.

I'd argue these are CL 100 feats.

http://imgur.com/a/nJHEI
http://imgur.com/a/auFrx http://static9.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11124/111244877/5607991-20161223_210451.jpg
http://static7.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11124/111244877/5607992-20161223_210508.png

Originally posted by EcstaticGrace
What's Diana's best strength feat? Regardless I always assumed strength doesn't mean much in a fight unless you get hold of your opponent.

I don't remember Gamnanae absorbing all the magic from Earth. I'm confident Zatanna and Manitou Raven were fighting him. I also don't remember Etrigan hurting her outside the use of Hellfire.

She can absorb magic, and Etrigan isn't fast enough I think, to do so.
http://imgur.com/a/z1RDZ

You need to read all those comics again I think.

And you didnt comment on Lobo.

Originally posted by abhilegend
You need to read all those comics again I think.

And you didnt comment on Lobo.


I'll look back at them, been wanting to reread JLA anyways.

I always assume Lobo is a Parody character like Wade or Squirrel Girl, who are at wherever they need to be in story. I haven't read much Lobo in all honesty so I don't have much of an opinion on the character.

Originally posted by EcstaticGrace
I'll look back at them, been wanting to reread JLA anyways.

I always assume Lobo is a Parody character like Wade or Squirrel Girl, who are at wherever they need to be in story. I haven't read much Lobo in all honesty so I don't have much of an opinion on the character.

Read JLA 75. It has Etrigan ripping out of Gemnanae.

Eh, Lobo is always a superman level character in strength. His feats are consistently at that level and Etrigan has fought him at least six times.

The demon stomps

Also Carol absorbs heat Energy.

Don't remember DCnU Etrigan doing anything to impressive.

Originally posted by EcstaticGrace
Also Carol absorbs heat Energy.

Don't remember DCnU Etrigan doing anything to impressive.

He uses BFR a lot. Sends people to Hell.