Originally posted by Rao Kal El
Superman survived a nova blast from starbreaker yet he couldn't survive doomsday.Nova blast >>>>>>> any planet busting feat, nova blast is at least multi planet busting feat.
This happened under the same writer.
Is there any proof that Starbreaker's nova blast possessed enough power to destroy multiple planets? Johnny Storm has created nova blasts in the past, and as devastating as they were, they weren't remotely close to being planet threatening blasts. Starbreaker is more powerful than the Human Torch, but was there a citation telling us exactly how powerful the blast was? If not, how could anyone begin to gauge the scope of that blast?
Originally posted by Cogito
Can't think of a time that DD hasn't shrugged off energy based attacks with zero effort, with the exception of the off-panel-far-in-the-past deaths to the Radiant and a Guardian.That includes the combined energy attacks of the JLA, Darkseid, etc.
So no, BB's shout isn't likely to do shit but make him angry.
Can't think of a time BB has had power like that without some sort of amp or being out of continuity..
Originally posted by Stoic
Is there any proof that Starbreaker's nova blast possessed enough power to destroy multiple planets? Johnny Storm has created nova blasts in the past, and as devastating as they were, they weren't remotely close to being planet threatening blasts. Starbreaker is more powerful than the Human Torch, but was there a citation telling us exactly how powerful the blast was? If not, how could anyone begin to gauge the scope of that blast?
Read the arcs from before DOS and you can see how powerful he was.
Not near my cpu so I can't provide scans of his beam attacks, but here is Galan's respect thread of starbreaker.
Originally posted by Stoic
Is there any proof that Starbreaker's nova blast possessed enough power to destroy multiple planets? Johnny Storm has created nova blasts in the past, and as devastating as they were, they weren't remotely close to being planet threatening blasts. Starbreaker is more powerful than the Human Torch, but was there a citation telling us exactly how powerful the blast was? If not, how could anyone begin to gauge the scope of that blast?
Starbreaker encased Superman in a localized sphere of energy. That's why it didn't destroy the planet, which Beyonder was trying to harvest.
But he claimed in no uncertain terms that Superman could not stand up to the energies of a super nova, and KO'd him with it (But didn't kill him.)
Originally posted by Cogito
Can't think of a time that DD hasn't shrugged off energy based attacks with zero effort, with the exception of the off-panel-far-in-the-past deaths to the Radiant and a Guardian.That includes the combined energy attacks of the JLA, Darkseid, etc.
So no, BB's shout isn't likely to do shit but make him angry.
I too struggle to think of Doomsdays that have killed by enegy attacks outsife the ones that were killed by energy attacks.
I also cant think of any Doomsday were affected by physical attacks. With the exception of those that were killed by ohysical attacks.
More interesting to me is that Death of Superman (DOS) Doomsday, who cannot fly, and had to paddle his way out of a lake once dropped in, was apparently contained in a suit bound with metal.
And we have Graviton on this team, who can simply levitate non-flying, non-projectile wielding Doomsday in the air at the height of the team's choice, till they can decide what to do with him.
Darn it! If only we had someone on this team who could manipulate metal, like even that of the suit Doomsday is wearing, which bound him before ...
Originally posted by Juntai
Nothing could really hurt him until Superman maxed out and dumped out all his energy.
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That was the point of Doomsday.
This team isnt bound by story telling constraints, as its a forum fight, and far out powers the handful of JLAers that played fodder to build up suspense for the main event in DOS.
Originally posted by bluewaterrider
More interesting to me is that Death of Superman (DOS) Doomsday, who cannot fly, and had to paddle his way out of a lake once dropped in, was apparently contained in a suit bound with metal.And we have Graviton on this team, who can simply levitate non-flying, non-projectile wielding Doomsday in the air at the height of the team's choice, till they can decide what to do with him.
Darn it! If only we had someone on this team who could manipulate metal, like even that of the suit Doomsday is wearing, which bound him before ...
^^^This.
One of dozens of ways a team as versatile as this could handle the situation.
This team can beat DoS Doomsday so many way its laughable...
The only chance DoS Doomsday has is if the team fights like complete, brain dead, morons...
If the team uses even an inkling of intellect, DoS Doomsday loses very rapidly...
As has been correctly pointed out already; DoS Doomsday cant fly; Graviton can could just levitate Doomsday until Thor (for example) opens a portal to some remote dimension and dumps him in it...
Team wins 10/10 with ease...
Doomsday has a history of adapting to energies on the fly or just plain out canceling energy beings.
As a matter of fact Radiant was the ultimate energy life form, that was the only reason why Radiant defeated him. Because Doomsday was the ultimate life form but he never faced the ultimate energy life form.
At the pooint of DOS Doomsday is already inmune to Radiant.
No BFR team is in for a fight
Originally posted by bluewaterrider
More interesting to me is that Death of Superman (DOS) Doomsday, who cannot fly, and had to paddle his way out of a lake once dropped in, was apparently contained in a suit bound with metal.And we have Graviton on this team, who can simply levitate non-flying, non-projectile wielding Doomsday in the air at the height of the team's choice, till they can decide what to do with him.
Darn it! If only we had someone on this team who could manipulate metal, like even that of the suit Doomsday is wearing, which bound him before ...
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Originally posted by Rao Kal El
Doomsday has a history of adapting to energies on the fly or just plain out canceling energy beings.As a matter of fact Radiant was the ultimate energy life form, that was the only reason why Radiant defeated him. Because Doomsday was the ultimate life form but he never faced the ultimate energy life form.
At the pooint of DOS Doomsday is already inmune to Radiant.
It doesnt take Thor long to open portals to other dimensions; it literally takes seconds...
Graviton could absolutely hold him long enough to dump Doomsday somewhere remote...
Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
It doesnt take Thor long to open portals to other dimensions; it literally takes seconds...Graviton could absolutely hold him long enough to dump Doomsday somewhere remote...
Was a fun thread to read, though. I can see this going for many pages.
Originally posted by riv6672
Doomsday fan fic has him adapting to things at super speed now, how cute. No wonder i dont read RK-Es wisdom pearls. 😆Was a fun thread to read, though. I can see this going for many pages.
You don't read them because you are a troll and a pu$$y that when called out starts crying. 😂
The schoolyard-style taunt to Riv sounds like a tacit admission that there's no counter this version of Doomsday has to the non-lethal "levitate and contain" strategy proposed for Graviton and Magneto, who are listed prominently as members of the Marvel Team.
Note that BFR or "Battlefield Removal" is not involved here -- the team just leaves Doomsday ON the field, harmless and contained.
Too bad Hulk wasn't listed as a participant. I so hoped for the opportunity to show the following scan in the course of valid debate ...
He canceled out a time stopper in any universe breaking the laws of time >>>>>>>>>> laws of gravity.
He adapted to the energies of green lanterns, adapted to yellow rings energies, mystical energies from bloodwynd, booster's energies, fire's energies and Superman's energies, not to mention the other energies he adapted during year one.
With this record it is safer to say that he could adapt than he will not 🙂
Team is in for the fight of their lives.
And LOL at your scan "carver2" that is a computer simulation. Sad trolling attempt 😂
