Dr. Manhattan vs The Beyonder

I had a conversation concerning Manhattan's power level, and the person that I spoke to said that he was more powerful than the original Beyonder, and when I asked him what proof he had, he told me that Manhatan had been recently stirring up things in DC to the point of rewriting reality. Is this true? Could he be above the Beyonder or a 5D being?

If the Beyonder isn't enough, who in Marvel could defeat Dr. Manhattan?

Personally, I dont think Manhattan is anywhere remotely close to the level of power as PR Beyonder.

Originally posted by DTM
Personally, I dont think Manhattan is anywhere remotely close to the level of power as PR Beyonder.

I basically said the same thing as you are saying, but he seemed convinced that Manhattan existed on a higher playing field.

To me, Manhattan is a god among normal mortals, whereas the Beyonder is a GOD among Gods.

Too early to tell. If Manhattan did phuck with time on a universal/multiversal scale, he'll certainly be up there. Probably closer to Hickman's Beyonder than PR.

Originally posted by Stoic
I basically said the same thing as you are saying, but he seemed convinced that Manhattan existed on a higher playing field.

Even if Manhattan rewrote DC reality, that stiill wouldn't put him anywhere near Beyonders ballpark. I'm thinking your friend doesn't understand just how powerful Beyonder really was.

Marvel has a reality warper on every street corner. Half the X Force could probably create a universe, and some like Wanda can do a lot more. All less then insects to the Beyonder.

Thanks for the input guys. I guess that the answer will unfold in time.

Yeah, there's not enough definitive evidence to put Manhattan anywhere near PR Beyonder, yet.

there just arent enough showings with manhattan nothing on panel suggests hes even a quarter of the power of the beyonder

Have times changed. 😛

Yes

I can't help voting for Dr Manhattan because ihave read Doomsday Clock.
He is above settings which hold down Beyonders

Manhattan as well

Manhattan is only Superman level though 👆

manhattan wins.

beyonder is overrated

Now Manhattan wins comfortably.

Manhatten has shown absolutely nothing to be on this level

Secret Wars II made Yondie really Stupid so I can see DrM taking the win.

How powerful is Doctor Manhattan in compared to DC high tier like Prepetua, Lucifer, even Presence?