Originally posted by Khazra RebornI seen the movie. No where did Magneto dropped a city on someone. Magneto can only control metal TO A LIMITED EXTENT. A city isn't completely made out of metal and magneto couldn't lift a city even if it was.
Go watch Apocalypse. Why you even try to discuss this if you haven't seen the films
I've seen the movie, so it's on you to tell which feats show this.
Originally posted by h1a8
I seen the movie. No where did Magneto dropped a city on someone. Magneto can only control metal TO A LIMITED EXTENT. A city isn't completely made out of metal and magneto couldn't lift a city even if it was.I've seen the movie, so it's on you to tell which feats show this.
Shut the **** up, take your caps lock and shove it up your ass. If you watched it, you would know Magneto was manipulating the entire city in the final battle, hence Quicksilver trying for a Hail Mary sneak attack.
At the end of X-Men: Apocalypse, Magneto was affecting the entire planet. We are shown shots of different locations, all over the globe, being ripped apart by his power, as well as enormous amounts of metal being torn from the ocean floors. According to the one specialist in the film, who was analysing what was happening, "anything built since the Bronze Age will be wiped away", if Magneto had kept going.
Originally posted by juggerman
Magneto took a while to build all that up. SM or WW could KO/kill him well before he built that up.Now if this started with his shield up and metal amassed then it would be better. As it stands, Erik would likely get put down right away.
Well, he had a much more rapid effect on the local environment, but it did take like a minute or two to start affecting a wider area. And, like I said, if she has her weapons, he wouldn't need to. But the OP didn't specify.
But that wasn't the point of my post in anyways. I took a certain clown off ignore (because he gets quoted so often, I can't escape his posts in anyways), only to see him claim that Magneto couldn't levitate a metal city. Yet we see him manipulate massive amounts of metal, on a global scale, all at once.
Though he could still potentially target WW's bracelets and tiara if she decides to go for him.
I agree that he'd be in trouble if Kal chose to go at him directly. But which opponent is Superman likely going to go for first? The regular human-looking guy, wearing a helmet, or the large, hulking brute that looks like Games Workshop got hold of Sauron?
Well if it were Kal alone then i would say he would go for Kurse. But imo WW would engage Kurse first as well and she would likely attack first. I know she's not faster than Kal but she's more likely to just attack from what we see in BvS. Either way I don't see Mags able to put SM down anywhere near as fast as vice versa. Hv would burn through anything Magneto could muster to throw at him.
Originally posted by juggerman
Well if it were Kal alone then i would say he would go for Kurse. But imo WW would engage Kurse first as well and she would likely attack first. I know she's not faster than Kal but she's more likely to just attack from what we see in BvS. Either way I don't see Mags able to put SM down anywhere near as fast as vice versa. Hv would burn through anything Magneto could muster to throw at him.
Fair enough. My real issue was with a certain poster's blatant low-balling of Magneto's raw power. I would likely lean towards team 2 myself.
The real question is... Will we hear Tarantino-esque guitar music start to play when Wonder Woman attacks? 😄
Originally posted by Nibedicus
If Magneto doesn't get bum rushed within the first second, he could just take WW's shield and use it to block Superman's attacks and sword to cut him up.Big if.
Well, that's what I was thinking. But if Superman does attack him first, he won't get the chance. He showed that he can blitz people pretty quickly, as seen when he did "not" kill (according to Snyder) the guy he plowed through like 4 walls, in BvS.
Originally posted by NibedicusI don't think the shield will cover his entire body. Plus Superman can easily zip behind him. Also I don't think he can take anything away from Diana that's held by her (shield and sword). Assuming that's standard equipment. At best he would struggle a little due to her strength and flight.
If Magneto doesn't get bum rushed within the first second, he could just take WW's shield and use it to block Superman's attacks and sword to cut him up.Big if.
Superman knows that he can ko Magneto in an instant. It would be silly not to see nice He will not miss a beat on Kurse.
But I agree her sword can be used to harm Superman if he gets a hold of it. But Superman will then use his speed to knock mags out if that happens.
Originally posted by TheVaultDwellerI can agree with that assessment. But what I can't understand is that why you didn't address his post for obvious flaws? He said something more ridiculous.
At the end of X-Men: Apocalypse, Magneto was affecting the entire planet. We are shown shots of different locations, all over the globe, being ripped apart by his power, as well as enormous amounts of metal being torn from the ocean floors. According to the one specialist in the film, who was analysing what was happening, "anything built since the Bronze Age will be wiped away", if Magneto had kept going.
It took a shitload of time to what Magneto did. Its not even a viable tactic here. The statement that magneto wins over Superman by dropping a city on him is more ridiculous than anything I said here (because it's not a viable tactic).
Originally posted by Khazra RebornHe manipulated the metal in the city. A city as astronomically more mass than it metal in it. But I accept Vaultdweller assessment. It's still sketchy but agreeable.
Shut the **** up, take your caps lock and shove it up your ass. If you watched it, you would know Magneto was manipulating the entire city in the final battle, hence Quicksilver trying for a Hail Mary sneak attack.
Also
1. That was slow as hell. Which makes your comment on Magneto dropping a city on Superman to win a fight asinine. Why would you say that when you know it's not even a viable tactic?
2. Magneto later was weaker. Struggling to lift SF bridge. The version of Magneto wasn't specified.
Originally posted by h1a8
I can agree with that assessment. But what I can't understand is that why you didn't address his post for obvious flaws? He said something more ridiculous.It took a shitload of time to what Magneto did. Its not even a viable tactic here. The statement that magneto wins over Superman by dropping a city on him is more ridiculous than anything I said here (because it's not a viable tactic).
Exactly because it was so far-fetched (IMO), given the situation, it was not worth commenting on. To me, a genuinely viable tactic would be grabbing WW's weapons and using them against team 2. But we don't even know if they are in this match. The OP never specified weapons. And, like I said, that could only work if Superman targets Kurse first. Otherwise, Magneto gets "not" killed (seriously, go f*** yourself, Zack Snyder), when Superman plows into him at high speed.
Originally posted by h1a8
2. Magneto later was weaker. Struggling to lift SF bridge. The version of Magneto wasn't specified.
Different Magneto from an erased time line. We have no idea whether the OT version was even a Horseman. Closest indication of similarities we have is Xavier and Storm's hairstyles. And that only shows that they had interaction with Apocalypse (assuming the reasons for their hair, or lack there of, is the same in both time lines). It doesn't tell us anything about Magneto though. After all, there are other massive discrepancies between the two time lines. For example, Angel from the OT was a young adult in the mid 2000s. The new version was around that same age a few decades earlier. Plus, we don't know how much the events, in the past, at the end of DoFP affected Magneto. If things had played out differently, would he have gone into hiding, had a family, had them killed, leaving him open to recruitment? Far too many unknowns there, so any theories about him being a Horseman in the OT is nothing but speculation.
And, as per the rules, we use the most current version unless specified otherwise. And the most current canonical version is X-Men: Apocalypse Magneto.