Interesting, People on the Internet trust the far right more than the media.

Originally posted by Flyattractor
[b]So far Right it came back around on the LEFT SIDE.

The Word Nazi is just short for National SOCIALIST Party. And Brother You LEFTIES LOVE THE SOCIALISM!!!!!

And since Nazis was Leftis You got the Holocaut on YOUR Shoulders.

That and the Klan was started by DEMOCRATS!!!!!!!!

Try opening a history book and reading it sometime instead of BURNING it.

Ya might learn sumin [/B]

You're aware that when Hitler took over the party it began undergoing drastic changes immediately to the point that he rounded up all the leftist sympathizers in germany and sent them to camps?

The only group Hitler may have hated more then the Jews were the communists.

Just wanted to clarify that.

Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
You're aware that when Hitler took over the party it began undergoing drastic changes immediately to the point that he rounded up all the leftist sympathizers in germany and sent them to camps?

The only group Hitler may have hated more then the Jews were the communists.

Just wanted to clarify that.

Thats cause EVERYBODY knows ya Can't Trust a Commie. Especially other Leftists.

Cause we aint never seen Leftists throw OTHER Leftists to the wolves before.

NOOOOOO Never!

Stalin killed more people than Hitler. Just saying

And the Leftists Still LOVE HIM! The leftists Loved the Nazis too until it became to apparent on what was really going on. And that was only because they didn't want to turn their voting bases against them.

Originally posted by Flyattractor
[b]Thats cause EVERYBODY knows ya Can't Trust a Commie. Especially other Leftists.

Cause we aint never seen Leftists throw OTHER Leftists to the wolves before.

NOOOOOO Never! [/B]

... Are you... Are you actually suggesting Hitler was left leaning?

Originally posted by Flyattractor
[b]And the Leftists Still LOVE HIM! The leftists Loved the Nazis too until it became to apparent on what was really going on. And that was only because they didn't want to turn their voting bases against them. [/B]

Most moderates on the left do not love Stalin... You seem to have a strange view of the world fly.

Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
... Are you... Are you actually suggesting Hitler was left leaning?

Nope. But I am suggesting that He did use all the Leftist Looneys to build his SOCIALIST EMPIRE!!!!!!!

I will push that .....Hard!

Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
Most moderates on the left do not love Stalin... You seem to have a strange view of the world fly.

His "empire" wasn't socialist in nature. He did use left leaning German citizens to gain power though, yes.

I haven't seen that much but if you do it's likely meant to be satirical or ironic.

Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
His "empire" wasn't socialist in nature. He did use left leaning German citizens to gain power though, yes.

I haven't seen that much but if you do it's likely meant to be satirical or ironic.

no "Empire" ever is. They just USE such things to BUILD the EMPIRE!

Cause once you are THE EMPEROR you don't have to put up with any ones BullShit anymore.

I'm saying the Nazi ideals that his empire was based off of were not leftist in nature.

Far right is the absence of government to varying degrees from libertarianism and Minarchism to stuff like Anarcho Capitalism. The idea that Fascism is far right is pretty ****ing retarded when people on that side of the political spectrum want abolition of the state, not a Corporatist one

Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
His "empire" wasn't socialist in nature. He did use left leaning German citizens to gain power though, yes.

I haven't seen that much but if you do it's likely meant to be satirical or ironic.

This is the problem most of the far right loons on the internet think Socialism is National Socialism, because they believe the internet. You clearly understand National Socialism was far right. Very far right...

The allies essentially paved the way for Hitler and his nazi's to take over in the early 1930s.

Also most don't know that when it comes to the nazi's and eugenics..Hitler was inspired by the USA. The nazis studied American race laws and the only problem they found with them is that they weren't extreme enough for the nazis.

The point is we have a nasty habit of paving the way for people who later turn out to be enemies.

Originally posted by Surtur
The allies essentially paved the way for Hitler and his nazi's to take over in the early 1930s.

Also most don't know that when it comes to the nazi's and eugenics..Hitler was inspired by the USA. The nazis studied American race laws and the only problem they found with them is that they weren't extreme enough for the nazis.

And that's got nothing to do with if fascism is far right or not.

National Socialism=Far Right
Alt Right=Far Right

Originally posted by Stop the hate
And that's got nothing to do with if fascism is far right or not.

National Socialism=Far Right
Alt Right=Far Right

Once again though, you don't just find fascist tactics on the right.

Let me ask you a serious question though: how would you personally define fascism?

Originally posted by Surtur
Once again though, you don't just find fascist tactics on the right.

Let me ask you a serious question though: how would you personally define fascism?

Early fascism, people like the Fasci indeed described themselves as from the left. However, since National Socialism and WWII the term fascism has usually only been applied to the far right. Glad I could help.

Nice dodge

Originally posted by Henry_Pym
The stupidity of this is awesome

Fascism is an authoritarian issue, not a left right issue. Communism likewise could be implemented by a right-wing government.

The Klan was created by Democrats as a response to attacks on the idea of states rights. While it has pretty much morphed into the racist Boogeyman, they are actually classical liberals with strong authoritarian biases.

The Holocaust was HEAVILY based on sanctions from WW1 and the fact Germans around the world were victims of hate crimes. This reached its most pivitol when a Jewish writer wrote about how the world would be better off "castrating" all the Germans and the German people dying out. This was what formed the basis of the propaganda that the Nazi party used to take power.

If you don't know history, don't bring it up.

Also nothing you brought up was actually brought about by the media.

Poor Rhetoric, a poorly researched and selective history troll #trollharder

Back to topic

"Normally, they would be a little wary of someone who seems erratic. They like predictability in the same way they like conservatives," says Melvin Levitsky, a former head of the State Department's U.S.-Soviet Bilateral Relations who now teaches at the University of Michigan Gerald R. Ford School of Public Policy. "Probably the fact that Trump has said these positive things about him, like he's a better leader than Obama, certainly affects him. But Putin is a very calculating guy."

http://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2016-11-09/how-vladimir-putin-won-the-us-election

Okey, there is a great deal of misinformation and/or misrepresentation in this thread...

To make it clearer:

The party is all embracing. It rules our lives in all their breadth and depth. We must therefore develop the branches of the party in which the whole of the individual life will be reflected.Each activity and each need of the individual will thereby be regulated by the party as the representative of the general good. There will be no license, no free space in which the individual belongs to himself. This is Socialism—not such trifles as the private possession of the means of production. Of what important is that, if I range men firmly wishing a discipline they cannot escape? Let them own land or factories as much as they please. The decisive factor is the State, through the party, is supreme over them regardless whether they are owners or workers. All that you see, is unessential. Our socialism goes deeper.

-- Adolf Hilter on his socialism

Taken from The Ominous Parallels by Leonard Peikoff.

The same, shortened quote can be found in other sources like Industry and Ideology: I. G. Farben in the Nazi Era by Peter Hayes; In Defense of Chaos: The Chaology of Politics, Economics and Human Action by L.K. Samuels and World Fascism: A Historical Encyclopedia, Volume 1 by Cyprian Blamires among others.

Also, this does not get any clearer than this admission:

I am a Socialist, and a very different kind of Socialist from your rich friend, Count Revendow. I was once an ordinary working-man. I would not allow my chauffeur to eat worse than I eat.

-- Adolf Hitler on his Leftist ideology,

Taken from Hitler and Stalin: Parallel Lives by Allan Bullock.

Same quote can be found in Documents on Nazism: 1919-1945 by Jeremy Noakes, ‎Geoffrey Pridham and The Invention of Fascism by Lawrence Alan Rosenthal and other sources.

Also, the acronym "Nazism" stands for "National Socialism; German: Nationalsozialismus)" and Hitler was the leader of the The National Socialist German Workers' Party (German: Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei, abbreviated NSDAP), commonly referred to in English as the Nazi Party.

So yeah, Hitler was a Lefty, both in his political views and when he used a pen. (pun intended)

I hope this helped to clear up the issue. 👆

Originally posted by Stigma
Okey, there is a great deal of misinformation and/or misrepresentation in this thread...

To make it clearer:

-- Adolf Hitler on his Leftist ideology, taken from Hitler and Stalin: Parallel Lives by Allan Bullock.

Same quote can be found in Documents on Nazism: 1919-1945 by Jeremy Noakes, ‎Geoffrey Pridham and The Invention of Fascism by Lawrence Alan Rosenthal and other sources.

Also, the acronym "Nazism" stands foror "National Socialism; German: Nationalsozialismus)" and Hitler was the leader of the The National Socialist German Workers' Party (German: Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei, abbreviated NSDAP), commonly referred to in English as the Nazi Party.

So yeah, Hitler was a Lefty, both in his political views and when he used a pen. (pun intended)

I hope this helped to clear up the issue. 👆

The Only Misinformation is from you. National Socialsim is not Socialism.

Wiki which is a far more impartial and respected sourece than anything you are using and cites.

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