You can apply that statement to various films. Doesn't mean Michael Bay gets the credit. Plus, in some of the MCU films, it's more the opposite. CA:TWS, for example. It has some humorous moments, but, overall, it's a lot more serious than comedic. Also, some of the Transformers "humour" is seriously cringe-y. Like their habit of making racially stereotyped Transformers.
Re: Thank Michael bay for the MCU
Originally posted by relentless1
Watching the first Transformers and it occurred to me that the exact same style of almost slapstick humour mixed with great over the top action set pieces is what the MCUs bread and butter is. Does anyone else see the almost carbon copy of structure here? Which begs the question of why are the MCU films so celebrated and the Bay films so despised critically? Whats that one minor difference that separates these two franchises that couldn't be any differently received critically.
Originally posted by relentless1
the humour is quite similar between both franchises this cannot be denied; the action may be soulless or whatever in comparison to MCU but the structure and approach is quite similar; levity with a couple moments of drama sprinkled into the narrative
Transformers is not the first big blockbuster with over the top action and humor. That type of movie has been around for decades.
Terminator 2, Lethal Weapon series, Indiana Jones Series, Star Wars, Die Hard series, Big Trouble in Little China, Robocop, Predator, Commando, True Lies, Independence Day, etc, etc all had this structure.
Transformers are just bad movies that solely focus on the destruction porn, bad humor and not so much the story, plot, acting, etc. Thats not the case for the MCU movies or any of the other movies I listed with big action and humor.
Its not hard to see what films are shittty despite if they follow similar styles to other movies. Movies with bad plots, bad acting, bad jokes, bad editing will always be shit regardless if they are similar to other movies that are actually good.
Originally posted by Darth Thor
Well there certainly set the tone and benchmark for the Universe.But Whedon, the Russos and James Gunn all took the MCU to new levels. Feige obviously guided all of it.
Agreed, but those guys may have not ever been given the chance to push the franchise without the solid foundation that Iron Man 1 created. Look no further than the DCEU to see how important it is to have a good face and solid director to build off of.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Concession accepted.Far better than yours since I don't need drugs. You're pitiful.
But your life is obviously one incredibly sad existence. You consistently convince yourself of your superiority to people who have blown stuff out of their nose more intelligent than you.
You routinely make a fool of yourself with your intensity about your obsessions: Khan, Marvel, NuTrek in general.
You run your mouth with consistent nonsense and scream "concession" whenever anyone gets tired of dealing with your craziness.
You are literally a running joke lol.
Originally posted by SurturYou conceded since you didn't respond to the debate. That's how it works, dummy.
But your life is obviously one incredibly sad existence. You consistently convince yourself of your superiority to people who have blown stuff out of their nose more intelligent than you.You routinely make a fool of yourself with your intensity about your obsessions: Khan, Marvel, NuTrek in general.
You run your mouth with consistent nonsense and scream "concession" whenever anyone gets tired of dealing with your craziness.
No, you don't make any sense on any topic. You're a pitiful drug addict. That's sad.
Originally posted by quanchi112
You conceded since you didn't respond to the debate. That's how it works, dummy.No, you don't make any sense on any topic. You're a pitiful drug addict. That's sad.
Nothing to concede as there is zero to debate. Did you feel this topic not being about shared universes in general was up for debate? Oh sweet little quan, it wasn't ever up for debate, not ever lol.
This doesn't mean people can't mention DC, someone else did and you of course pounced on their quote. You know what that person didn't do, though? Whine about off topic posts and then post something off topic.
You're a running joke here, are you aware of that?
Originally posted by SurturYou Responded by citing Nolan films which wasn't relevant then you've been insisting hey that wasn't on topic to hide your error.
Nothing to concede as there is zero to debate. Did you feel this topic not being about shared universes in general was up for debate? Oh sweet little quan, it wasn't ever up for debate, not ever lol.This doesn't mean people can't mention DC, someone else did and you of course pounced on their quote. You know what that person didn't do, though? Whine about off topic posts and then post something off topic.
You're a running joke here, are you aware of that?
You can't even convey your own points and are routinely mocked by your own words. You're a loser who abuses drugs. How does that feel ?
Originally posted by quanchi112
You Responded by citing Nolan films which wasn't relevant then you've been insisting hey that wasn't on topic to hide your error.You can't even convey your own points and are routinely mocked by your own words. You're a loser who abuses drugs. How does that feel ?
The only subjects technically on topic are Michael Bay and his effect on the MCU. DC being shitty isn't relevant. How does it feel that nothing you say, no insult you hurl, actually changes that? Everyone knows you will continue to insist otherwise because you can never admit when you do anything wrong.
You're so desperate to bring up characters and companies you love/hate in every topic. I can tell you legitimately feel empowered by it.
Originally posted by SurturYou already cited the Nolan films so you engaged then you acted like it was the same thing. You like DC I favor marvel it's fine, loser.
The only subjects technically on topic are Michael Bay and his effect on the MCU. DC being shitty isn't relevant. How does it feel that nothing you say, no insult you hurl, actually changes that? Everyone knows you will continue to insist otherwise because you can never admit when you do anything wrong.You're so desperate to bring up characters and companies you love/hate in every topic. I can tell you legitimately feel empowered by it.