Originally posted by FrothByteBatman casually koed a human with a flick. I don't recall Joker hitting Batman's armor and hurting Batman.
You mean the suit that Joker was hurting Batman through? And Batman's punches that couldn't knockout Joker or Ra's?
WS was getting hit by normal humans and normal humans was able to dodge his attacks. Also, WS failed to ko a human with an elbow to the face.
So Bane durability >>>Batman attack >>>>WS attack
Originally posted by h1a8
Batman casually koed a human with a flick. I don't recall Joker hitting Batman's armor and hurting Batman.WS was getting hit by normal humans and normal humans was able to dodge his attacks. Also, WS failed to ko a human with an elbow to the face.
So Bane durability >>>Batman attack >>>>WS attack
Post the scene where Baleman ko'd a normal human and then failed to ko Bane.
Originally posted by h1a8
Batman casually koed a human with a flick. I don't recall Joker hitting Batman's armor and hurting Batman.WS was getting hit by normal humans and normal humans was able to dodge his attacks. Also, WS failed to ko a human with an elbow to the face.
So Bane durability >>>Batman attack >>>>WS attack
Here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X5-phrSTIUs
While Joker utilizes an iron pipe, he also punched Batman quite a few times and Batman definitely didn't just tank those punches.
Elbow to the face? You mean the short elbow to the face WS hit Tony with? Guess you didn't see the straight right that followed. Weren't you the one who said not all hits are equal? Hypocrite much?
How bout you show me a normal human surviving a full powered hit from WS to the face?
In any case it's moot point. Batman doesn't hit anywhere near as strong as WS and he still managed to hurt Bane in their last fight.
What happened to H1's argument of using consistent "averages"? In both this and the Bane vs Winter Soldier thread, all he has referenced so far is a single backhand (which he only claimed, and never provided a clip for, and has now evolved into a "flick"😉, even though multiple posters asked him to provide examples (plural) of the "several" peak-/superhuman feats he apparently had.
Originally posted by FrothByte
Elbow to the face? You mean the short elbow to the face WS hit Tony with? Guess you didn't see the straight right that followed. Weren't you the one who said not all hits are equal? Hypocrite much?
That's the thing that gets me. He repeatedly uses his "characters don't always hit with equal force. Power fluctuates from scene to scene" argument whenever characters like Winter Soldier or Captain America are being discussed (beyond the several times he says that in the Bane vs Winter Soldier thread, just look at the Cap vs Nite Owl/Rorschach thread), but then keeps trying to use one fodder striking feat as a representation of Batman's overall striking power, even though multiple people asked him to provide more feats, in the other thread. And then tries to accuse me of being a hypocrite by stating I said things that I didn't.
Originally posted by FrothByte
Here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X5-phrSTIUsWhile Joker utilizes an iron pipe, he also punched Batman quite a few times and Batman definitely didn't just tank those punches.
Elbow to the face? You mean the short elbow to the face WS hit Tony with? Guess you didn't see the straight right that followed. Weren't you the one who said not all hits are equal? Hypocrite much?
How bout you show me a normal human surviving a full powered hit from WS to the face?
In any case it's moot point. Batman doesn't hit anywhere near as strong as WS and he still managed to hurt Bane in their last fight.
The last part doesn't really count since Bane was inna ton of pain.
Anyway, if H1 wants to go on about Winter Soldier's human arm strikes, he can go do it in the other thread. We're discussing T'Challa here, who pretty much shrugged off a full-powered punch from Winter Soldier's metal arm, to his chest, and then immediately went into pursuit.
Also, T'Challa tanked being in the explosion that killed his father and several other delegates, during the big meeting, in CA:CW. Again, without his suit protecting him.
Originally posted by FrothBytePost the timestamp where Joker hits Batman with fist and Batman doesn't tank it.
Here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X5-phrSTIUsWhile Joker utilizes an iron pipe, he also punched Batman quite a few times and Batman definitely didn't just tank those punches.
Elbow to the face? You mean the short elbow to the face WS hit Tony with? Guess you didn't see the straight right that followed. Weren't you the one who said not all hits are equal? Hypocrite much?
How bout you show me a normal human surviving a full powered hit from WS to the face?
In any case it's moot point. Batman doesn't hit anywhere near as strong as WS and he still managed to hurt Bane in their last fight.
Hard elbow to the face and Tony doesn't get koed. The straight to the midsection didn't ko Tony either. It just sent him back. If WS was so strong then he should have killed or permanently injured Tony with either hit. Otherwise, he's only going to barely affect Bane with human arm.
Batman hit harder than WS when he koed a human with a flick to the face. But on average WS does strike harder, but not by a lot. Bane will be affected by WS. But not as much as you are thinking since Bane did no sell Batman's haymakers.
Originally posted by h1a8
Post the timestamp where Joker hits Batman with fist and Batman doesn't tank it.Hard elbow to the face and Tony doesn't get koed. The straight to the midsection didn't ko Tony either. It just sent him back. If WS was so strong then he should have killed or permanently injured Tony with either hit. Otherwise, he's only going to barely affect Bane with human arm.
Batman hit harder than WS when he koed a human with a flick to the face. But on average WS does strike harder, but not by a lot. Bane will be affected by WS. But not as much as you are thinking since Bane did no sell Batman's haymakers.
Start at 0:22. And while you're at it, why don't you post a vid and timestamp of Batman KOing someone with a flick. Once you're done with that we'll continue this argument.