TCW Dooku vs TCW Tano S5

Started by UCanShootMyNova6 pages

Joker's saying that he disagrees with you that Filoni only writes Ahsoka having victories if that was what you were asserting.

Originally posted by |King Joker|
Lmfao, if Filoni treated Ahsoka with bias like you claim she would've done far better in her duels.

You f*cking ninja. D:<

Re: Re: TCW Dooku vs TCW Tano S5

Originally posted by ares834
Which would mean Filoni is involved... I can't see this going well for the Count. 😖

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"Ya lol when fuloni is involved ahsoka is totally gonna be wanked" is the vibe I got from your post, ares.

If I'm wrong, okay, but the fact is Ahsoka hardly performs like some Goddess in the vast majority of her TCW fights, and regularly gets the shit beat out of her.

Originally posted by |King Joker|
Lmfao, if Filoni treated Ahsoka with bias like you claim she would've done far better in her duels.

Losing to someone who gave Anakin one hell of a duel and another who has defeated Jedi Masters?

/s

Considering her opponents there, Ahsoka did far better then she should have.

Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
Joker's saying that he disagrees with you that Filoni only writes Ahsoka having victories if that was what you were asserting.

It wasn't.

She performs much better then the average padawan/apprentice should though Joker. You can't deny that.

Granted it's hard to tell how much of it is Ahsoka wank and just general character lowballing from Filoni given how much he does of both.

Originally posted by |King Joker|
"Ya lol when fuloni is involved ahsoka is totally gonna be wanked" is the vibe I got from your post, ares.
If I'm wrong, okay, but the fact is Ahsoka hardly performs like some Goddess in the vast majority of her TCW fights, and regularly gets the shit beat out of her.

Ahsoka does get wanked by Filoni regularly. Hell, in her first appearance she takes out three MagnaGuards despite being "a little young for a padawan".

Sure, she loses from time to time but that's against opponents that, by all accounts, should be well outside her pay grade.

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Originally posted by ares834
Considering her opponents there, Ahsoka did far better then she should have.
Why? She's naturally skilled and trained by one of the best fighters in the Order + has a lot of battlefield / dueling experience (relative to most Jedi). There's also the fact that Filoni hardly respects Grievous that much anyways, so he could just be lowballing *him*.

Originally posted by ares834
Ahsoka does get wanked by Filoni regularly. Hell, in her first appearance she takes out three MagnaGuards despite being "a little young for a padawan".

Sure, she loses from time to time but that's against opponents that, by all accounts, should be well outside her pay grade.

MagnaGuards get fodderized by ****ing Nahdar Vebb, so I don't think they're used as some elite fighters by Filoni. She had a lot of trouble with them and took one out via ambush.

Didn't Barriss surprise Ahsoka? Although that was necessary in the arc to write Ahsoka out of the Order in time for RotS. That said, in the same episode, Barriss does fight pretty well against Anakin.

There's variables with Barriss's fight with Anakin that should be considered, but I don't feel like going through them so whatever.

Maybe because Grievous is a cyborg capable of slaughtering multiple Jedi and companies of clones barehanded on Geonosis and defeating half a dozen Jedi ( albeit exhausted ) many of whom were Council members on Hypori BEFORE much training from Dooku and Ventress has shown herself capable of going to briefly fight evenly with somebody who was deemed to be one of the powerful Sith warriors in 20,000 years before being confirmed to have grown in power, held off the greatest Jedi duo of the Clone Wars and possibly of all time on a consistent basis and beat the aforementioned cyborg in a lightsaber duel on Dathomir.

Holding off these individuals is something only a Jedi master could hope to do and Ahsoka is a freaking padawan. That's insane.

Yes, I'm sure Filoni totally took into account Legends in his calculations when writing scenes.

Originally posted by |King Joker|
Yes, I'm sure Filoni totally took into account Legends in his calculations when writing scenes.

Removed the magnaguard example because while Baloni really should have taken into account the rest of the EU when making TCW you're right in that he probably didn't.

My point stands with Grievous and Ventress who's standing I refuse to believe Filoni was unaware of.

He could've been aware, but I doubt he gave a rat's ass. We all know how he feels about Grievous's combative effectiveness, lol

And Ventress?

Honestly though, Ahsoka's power level works for her placement in the story. Make her average Jedi Padawan level, and she'd seem completely pointless to have around on missions and in combat if she's palling around with Anakin. At the level Filoni made her, the fact that her presence is warranted in certain situations and that she can be of any use actually makes sense, but she's still the underdog in basically every serious duel she's in, bar her fight with Barriss in Season 2.

I agree that it works better from a storytelling perspective but I wish they would at least taken a moment in the show to note that she was a prodigy or something. As it is it just makes power levels seem wonky.

When the RT is done you'll get a better picture of her standing as a Padawan via various sourcebooks, fact files, etc that makes it seem all more plausible