The Most Powerful Force-User Behind Luke, Sidious, Valkorion, Yoda, Plagueis, Caedus

I'd like to know how Caedus is a definite but Revan, Kun and Krayt aren't. 😬

It's telling that even though I emphatically agree with Ant on Revan vs Tenebrous, he still manages to destroy his position without Sunrazer doing a single thing.

Originally posted by Nephthys
It's telling that even though I emphatically agree with Ant on Revan vs Tenebrous, he still manages to destroy his position without Sunrazer doing a single thing.

Oh, and I saw Plagueis and Caedus as rough equals at the time.

And, although he got ragdolled by Luke in the 11th chapter, it happens to even the best.

Luke felt the Force stir as Raynar made a final exertion. "They're coming. Prepare for-"

The far hatch suddenly ruptured inward, bringing with it a short-lived decompression squall that rocked Luke back on his heels and hazed the corridor with airborne dust. He glimpsed a tall figure in a black pressure suit.

Then the figure flicked one of his hands, and Luke found himself flying backward, bouncing off YVH droids and tumbling out of control. He reached out in the Force, grabbing at passing hatches, the ceiling, even Raynar himself, but he was whirling too fast to catch hold of anything.

He hit the end of the corridor with a tremendous clung, unsure whether he was upside down or sideways, then crashed to the floor struggling to remain conscious.

Getting shoved really hard one time, is different from someone literally holding you in place with casual ease and all the struggling you can muster can't set you free to move a inch.

Originally posted by Deronn_solo
Getting shoved really hard one time, is different from someone literally holding you in place with casual ease and all the struggling you can muster can't set you free to move a inch.

Doubt it.

Not that I'm arguing whether Caedus can be equal or above Plagueis or not. Only that there is literally no parity between a shove and getting held in place without your opponent trying and you giving it your all, and you still can't move an inch.

1. Well it would depend on how you view luke compared to yoda though yoda could likely dominate plagueis(if not to the degree luke dominated caedus) given eotpm sidious's superiority to him and sidious undergoing a decade-plus of power growth.

2. Fair enough

Originally posted by AncientPower
I'd like to know how Caedus is a definite but Revan, Kun and Krayt aren't. 😬

And that's why I'm never ranking his non-prime instances again.

Because, evidently, I hadn't the slightest idea of what I was talking about.

Originally posted by Rockydonovang
1. Well it would depend on how you view luke compared to yoda though yoda could likely dominate plagueis(if not to the degree luke dominated caedus) given eotpm sidious's superiority to him and sidious undergoing a decade-plus of power growth.

I have no reason to believe Palpatine grew to a great degree from TPM to RotS.

Originally posted by Deronn_solo
I have no reason to believe Palpatine grew to a great degree from TPM to RotS.

Growing in power, and growing to ragdoll Plagueis range, is two completely different things. I'm gonna need actual evidence for the latter, not conjecture or wishful thinking.

Even peak Palpatine hasn't displayed the combative power sufficient enough to say he could ragdoll Plagueis.

Originally posted by Rockydonovang
We'll have to agree to disagree then.

Originally posted by Deronn_solo
Growing in power, and growing to ragdoll Plagueis range, is two completely different things. I'm gonna need actual evidence for the latter, not conjecture or wishful thinking.

Even peak Palpatine hasn't displayed the combative power sufficient enough to say he could ragdoll Plagueis.

Luceno says that Plagueis would have found a way to defeat Palpatine in a straight fight.

Originally posted by AncientPower
Luceno says that Plagueis would have found a way to defeat Palpatine in a straight fight.