Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Yah.It's just ALL together. Ambrose buys time for the team, whereupon Fantomex traps them in an illusion (with Jean and Prof X, the illusion lasted HOURS).
Enough time for Rogue to sap their strength, giving Carnage time to control them (he took over Surfer, THE high herald in Marvel and Cap, THE strong will guy) plus Herc to uncover his shield or whatever, plus a soul steal from Bats (I didn't THINK he needed a KO first).
I don't know. Even all together, it just seems like a Longshot(ba-
zing). Here's why I feel like that.
Jean and Charles cooperated with him, so he could misdirect all he wanted. Usually, once the gig is up, he must run or fight. Deadpool, Agent Zero, and others have fought him post illusion. Psylocke straight up knocked him out. If we want to get technical, we saw how misdirection works when Archangel's crew wrecked X-Force. It's plenty of time to get blitzed or freeze breathed.
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Surfer was ambushed, and Carnage never got full control. Combined with his remorse over feeding the Symbiotes to Galactus, I think the feat is overblown. The relevant combatants here can dodge/punt/imprison a flying symbiote, then Kassidy is down.
Bats 1 Million. Well, he's certainly never done it on someone conscious or resisting. He needs to be close to use that device too.
Most importantly, Chase. This plan hinges on his time control, but his area of influence is just plain too small. People standing a few feet behind him were unaffected by it. He can't snap his fingers and put a halt to everyone. I don't recall him actually stopping time anyway, apart from his "deat", which froze him too.
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I just feel like the JLA has tons of options, while the meta teams basically have one or two gimmicks that absolutely have to work flawlessly to win. Then again, you do have Longshot. mhmm