Originally posted by abhilegendwell you know, based off of feats, black bolt has nearly knocked out gladiator with a whisper, beaten on Vulcan, and one of his weakened screams drew blood from thanos. All that and I haven't even mentioned how he was capable of physically fighting namor, the hulk, or knocking out terrax. Superman hardly ever blitzes people from the get go, so I have doubts about him taking the solid majority here.
His feats? Are you going to argue against Superman on feats now?
Originally posted by deathslash
well you know, based off of feats, black bolt has nearly knocked out gladiator with a whisper, beaten on Vulcan, and one of his weakened screams drew blood from thanos. All that and I haven't even mentioned how he was capable of physically fighting namor, the hulk, or knocking out terrax. Superman hardly ever blitzes people from the get go, so I have doubts about him taking the solid majority here.
Basically. He also gave Thor a fight until Thor hit his antenna. Adding in Nova is overkill.
Originally posted by deathslashYou know that Superman doesn't have to blitz from the get go? Neither one is going to one shot him here. Superman, at any time, can decide to end this by nearly one shotting them at super speed.
well you know, based off of feats, black bolt has nearly knocked out gladiator with a whisper, beaten on Vulcan, and one of his weakened screams drew blood from thanos. All that and I haven't even mentioned how he was capable of physically fighting namor, the hulk, or knocking out terrax. Superman hardly ever blitzes people from the get go, so I have doubts about him taking the solid majority here.
Superman has HV. Why do people forget that? HV is potentially one of most powerful energy attacks by all heralds except the godblast.
Superman has freeze breath. He can flash freeze them for a moment and do whatever he wants to them.
Finally, Superman using his perception speed (like the diner feat with flash) is not him blitzing. He can always view these characters as near statues at anytime in the fight.
Originally posted by h1a8*mentions superman not having to blitz*
You know that Superman doesn't have to blitz from the get go? Neither one is going to one shot him here. Superman, at any time, can decide to end this by nearly one shotting them at super speed.Superman has HV. Why do people forget that? HV is potentially one of most powerful energy attacks by all heralds except the godblast.
Superman has freeze breath. He can flash freeze them for a moment and do whatever he wants to them.Finally, Superman using his perception speed (like the diner feat with flash) is not him blitzing. He can always view these characters as near statues at anytime in the fight.
Why would either of these guys be concerned about his heat vision? It's not like it could affect the energy shield using energy manipulator or the particle/electron manipulator.
Again, you're going to have to prove that Clark can get past their shields with his breath.
Originally posted by h1a8What is supermans hv going to do except get laughed at. Gladiator tried that on nova. Ain't nobody even slightly worried about freezing breath. Speedblitz?? As if these two haven't fought fast or faster opponents. Team wins. Nova pins supes while bolt wrecks him with a boo!!
You know that Superman doesn't have to blitz from the get go? Neither one is going to one shot him here. Superman, at any time, can decide to end this by nearly one shotting them at super speed.Superman has HV. Why do people forget that? HV is potentially one of most powerful energy attacks by all heralds except the godblast.
Superman has freeze breath. He can flash freeze them for a moment and do whatever he wants to them.Finally, Superman using his perception speed (like the diner feat with flash) is not him blitzing. He can always view these characters as near statues at anytime in the fight.
Originally posted by deathslash
*mentions superman not having to blitz*
*brings up superman blitzing one sentence later*Why would either of these guys be concerned about his heat vision? It's not like it could affect the energy shield using energy manipulator or the particle/electron manipulator.
Again, you're going to have to prove that Clark can get past their shields with his breath.
He acts like space hoppers don't routinely encounter force akin to this heat ray vision. He h1, no one "forgot."
Originally posted by JBL
What is supermans hv going to do except get laughed at. Gladiator tried that on nova. Ain't nobody even slightly worried about freezing breath. Speedblitz?? As if these two haven't fought fast or faster opponents. Team wins. Nova pins supes while bolt wrecks him with a boo!!
And WTF is he still ignoring Bolts track record vs. Gladiator? He has never once looked inferior and Gladiator has had moments when he's made other heralds look inferior. As this because they worship at the feat of Superman like he's their god.
it's similar to asking if 2 competent gl's (not great gl's) could beat him imo. they could cause some hassle, and if he isn't serious they might get him. otherwise they don't have too much of a shot. bb's voice is the only real question here imo. could it take him out? some showings would indicate yes, others maybe not....