Originally posted by Emperordmb
Yes, one does not have to be a Sith master to count as a member of the Sith Order or contribute to the Grand Plan.Zannah, Sidious, Maul, and Dooku all carried out tasks as apprentices that advanced the Grand Plan.
A person is not only given the Sith title or considered a member of the Order once they kill their master.
Plagueis is talking about people who have been Sith in Bane's order in the past millenium, and that isn't a statement that excludes a subset of people that were a part of the Order and were in fact Sith.
Given that Plagueis is looking at them retroactively, it's entirely possible that he's disregarding outcasts etc.
Although in fairness, he does mention that thousands are "fit to be Jedi" in the next phrase, so he could be referring to anyone bestowed with the title of "Sith".
Originally posted by Azronger
I don't see why it's such an outlandish concept for some. Plagueis > Valkorion is accepted by many here, so that shouldn't raise any eyebrows. But then, when the gap between Tenebrous and prime Plagueis is very small (or at least the evidence points to that), people still laugh at the notion of Tenebrous > Valkorion. Why?
lmao.
I'll debate you on the forum regarding novel Vitiate vs Tenebrous alone.